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		<title>By: oyun oyna</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/03/16/do-great-minds-blog-alike/comment-page-1/#comment-1154416</link>
		<dc:creator>oyun oyna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all honesty I am more likely to comment on blogs and forums that do not use the “nofollow” tag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all honesty I am more likely to comment on blogs and forums that do not use the “nofollow” tag.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonya Neblett</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/03/16/do-great-minds-blog-alike/comment-page-1/#comment-16528</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonya Neblett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 08:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Sean, Robert (Augustin) and Shel...all the variables they talked about come into play in greater or lesser degrees depending on the day and the amount of time available. However, I disagree that people who post on blogs are likely to be type A personalities...I post, sometimes, sometimes not. It really depends on the topic and if I have something I feel might be (at least a little bit) valuable and will add depth to the conversation.

Plus, we are all learning from each other, different viewpoints, different beliefs and different backgrounds. It&#039;s always interesting to see who comes out with what and sometimes there&#039;s a juicy tidbit of information that sparks that next big idea or works in a project you might be handling at a later date. So, I tend to think there is a positive outcome to participating and commenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Sean, Robert (Augustin) and Shel&#8230;all the variables they talked about come into play in greater or lesser degrees depending on the day and the amount of time available. However, I disagree that people who post on blogs are likely to be type A personalities&#8230;I post, sometimes, sometimes not. It really depends on the topic and if I have something I feel might be (at least a little bit) valuable and will add depth to the conversation.</p>
<p>Plus, we are all learning from each other, different viewpoints, different beliefs and different backgrounds. It&#8217;s always interesting to see who comes out with what and sometimes there&#8217;s a juicy tidbit of information that sparks that next big idea or works in a project you might be handling at a later date. So, I tend to think there is a positive outcome to participating and commenting.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Eisenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/03/16/do-great-minds-blog-alike/comment-page-1/#comment-16151</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Eisenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CVOS, it does seem unfair. Those folks are throwing out the baby with the bath water. However, if the only reason you comment is for  links back to your blog then how valuable are the comments? My view is that in a community their are contributors and takers. Long term contributors do better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CVOS, it does seem unfair. Those folks are throwing out the baby with the bath water. However, if the only reason you comment is for  links back to your blog then how valuable are the comments? My view is that in a community their are contributors and takers. Long term contributors do better.</p>
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		<title>By: CVOS</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/03/16/do-great-minds-blog-alike/comment-page-1/#comment-15863</link>
		<dc:creator>CVOS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all honesty I am more likely to comment on blogs and forums that do not use the &quot;nofollow&quot; tag. Nofollow strips a lot of value from the commentor and can be a less equitible exchange in favor of the blog owner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all honesty I am more likely to comment on blogs and forums that do not use the &#8220;nofollow&#8221; tag. Nofollow strips a lot of value from the commentor and can be a less equitible exchange in favor of the blog owner.</p>
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		<title>By: Shel Horowitz, Ethical Marketing Expert</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/03/16/do-great-minds-blog-alike/comment-page-1/#comment-15444</link>
		<dc:creator>Shel Horowitz, Ethical Marketing Expert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I make quite a few brief comments on blogs and websites--ad choose not to do others. I am, quite frankly,  most willing to comment when commenting will advance my own agenda for the world and/or for my business. So I tend to comment on the things like ethics in marketing or my views on current politics. Sometimes I&#039;ll comment because I strongly disagree with a post and want to show the other side; sometimes, to thank someone for a post I feel was spot on; sometimes, it&#039;s to position myself as a resource on frugal marketing, copywriting, etc.

And as Sean points out, letters to the editor have been around for years. I used to write a lot of them, and now I mostly write comments instead. They are faster, provide a link boost, and the acceptance rate is nearly 100%.

I still do write letters--actually got one in the NY Times last year. But I do a lot more blog/website comments, as well as discussion list participation, which serves to firmly brand me to the same audience over and over, as opposed to comment posts, which talk to the specific audience for that post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I make quite a few brief comments on blogs and websites&#8211;ad choose not to do others. I am, quite frankly,  most willing to comment when commenting will advance my own agenda for the world and/or for my business. So I tend to comment on the things like ethics in marketing or my views on current politics. Sometimes I&#8217;ll comment because I strongly disagree with a post and want to show the other side; sometimes, to thank someone for a post I feel was spot on; sometimes, it&#8217;s to position myself as a resource on frugal marketing, copywriting, etc.</p>
<p>And as Sean points out, letters to the editor have been around for years. I used to write a lot of them, and now I mostly write comments instead. They are faster, provide a link boost, and the acceptance rate is nearly 100%.</p>
<p>I still do write letters&#8211;actually got one in the NY Times last year. But I do a lot more blog/website comments, as well as discussion list participation, which serves to firmly brand me to the same audience over and over, as opposed to comment posts, which talk to the specific audience for that post.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Augustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Augustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 20:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a lot of reasons why or why not a reader will comment a post, some have been mentioned above. The subject has to be somewhat agitating to the reader, as Sean notices. The feeling that one&#039;s comment will be heard could be the strongest motivation.

As an infrequent blog reader, and a even more infrequent commentator, by asking myself what makes an article worth responding to it besides all that, I came to the conclusion that it&#039;s neccesary

1) That I have enough time to
   a) read the full post,
   b) read all of the corresponding comments,
   c) find something not mentioned yet,
   d) want to share my thoughts,
   c) write an own comment, and of course
2) That I&#039;m in the mood, provided
3) That I&#039;m a forthcoming person.

Since time is precious, and I&#039;m quite busy most of the day, I have to decide whether to spend my time on this article or on some other one, provided I can spare some time.
This doesn&#039;t change just because I&#039;m stirred up by a subject. Sometimes I feel I would have something to say but I just don&#039;t have the time.

Someone&#039;s mood can be changed by a subject, but only the flexible upper 10 percent of it. So, if you simply don&#039;t want to participate, no subject in the world can make you change your mind completely.

Finally, you have to be somewhat talkative by nature. I am. But only if I have time and if I&#039;m in the mood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a lot of reasons why or why not a reader will comment a post, some have been mentioned above. The subject has to be somewhat agitating to the reader, as Sean notices. The feeling that one&#8217;s comment will be heard could be the strongest motivation.</p>
<p>As an infrequent blog reader, and a even more infrequent commentator, by asking myself what makes an article worth responding to it besides all that, I came to the conclusion that it&#8217;s neccesary</p>
<p>1) That I have enough time to<br />
   a) read the full post,<br />
   b) read all of the corresponding comments,<br />
   c) find something not mentioned yet,<br />
   d) want to share my thoughts,<br />
   c) write an own comment, and of course<br />
2) That I&#8217;m in the mood, provided<br />
3) That I&#8217;m a forthcoming person.</p>
<p>Since time is precious, and I&#8217;m quite busy most of the day, I have to decide whether to spend my time on this article or on some other one, provided I can spare some time.<br />
This doesn&#8217;t change just because I&#8217;m stirred up by a subject. Sometimes I feel I would have something to say but I just don&#8217;t have the time.</p>
<p>Someone&#8217;s mood can be changed by a subject, but only the flexible upper 10 percent of it. So, if you simply don&#8217;t want to participate, no subject in the world can make you change your mind completely.</p>
<p>Finally, you have to be somewhat talkative by nature. I am. But only if I have time and if I&#8217;m in the mood.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D'Souza</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/03/16/do-great-minds-blog-alike/comment-page-1/#comment-15089</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D'Souza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Commenting isn&#039;t exactly new. Newspapers have letters to the editor. So what caused people to get out a stamp, lick the darned thing, and pay for their own envelope and mail it to the editor? The reason they do it, is because of:

1) They feel strongly (very strongly) about something.
2) They feel they&#039;ll be heard in the community.

For comments to exist, there must be a viable community. For comments to thrive, there must be the concept of someone listening--possibly acting. Comments by themselves are nothing but a big tree falling into a big sea, when no one is around.

And yes...the concept needs to be powerful enough to stir up emotions in people. The more you&#039;re mad/happy/sad/ whatever, about a topic, the more chances you have of getting a comment.

If you go back to newspapers of yore, you&#039;ll find your answer lies not in the blogosphere, but in the stamp-licking readers of yesterday (and today) :)

-Sean D&#039;Souza</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commenting isn&#8217;t exactly new. Newspapers have letters to the editor. So what caused people to get out a stamp, lick the darned thing, and pay for their own envelope and mail it to the editor? The reason they do it, is because of:</p>
<p>1) They feel strongly (very strongly) about something.<br />
2) They feel they&#8217;ll be heard in the community.</p>
<p>For comments to exist, there must be a viable community. For comments to thrive, there must be the concept of someone listening&#8211;possibly acting. Comments by themselves are nothing but a big tree falling into a big sea, when no one is around.</p>
<p>And yes&#8230;the concept needs to be powerful enough to stir up emotions in people. The more you&#8217;re mad/happy/sad/ whatever, about a topic, the more chances you have of getting a comment.</p>
<p>If you go back to newspapers of yore, you&#8217;ll find your answer lies not in the blogosphere, but in the stamp-licking readers of yesterday (and today) <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>-Sean D&#8217;Souza</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Gorell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Gorell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 02:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

I appreciate you bringing up this nuance, but I still don&#039;t believe Dubner is asking a different--let alone &quot;opposite&quot;--question.  Rather, his question is &quot;...what kind of person comments on a blog, and why?&quot; So, and please correct me if I&#039;m wrong, it seems you&#039;re suggesting that by not explicitly saying that we were also in search of qualitative variables about the commenters themselves, that we&#039;re not every bit as interested as Dubner in why &quot;lurkers,&quot; would-be commenters and commenters (habitual or otherwise) do what they do as we are in the content that spurs them to comment (or not) in the first place.

(Sorry, even I had to re-read that last bit ;)

In fact, I&#039;d argue that Dubner&#039;s question didn&#039;t do much to address the role of blog content itself as a key variable in all of this, as he chose to ask only about the people themselves and not their interaction with content. When he says the following, it&#039;s not implicit that he&#039;s only seeking people who don&#039;t comment, just that his data will be skewed unless those who don&#039;t generally comment do: &quot;...regular commenters will be overrepresented in the comments — unless, of course, a whole bunch of you who never comment decide to go ahead and log in and, in the comments section, tell us why you never comment. Or why other people do.&quot;

So, what&#039;s the point?  The point is that, in both blog posts, THE COMMENTERS themselves chose to address the question the same way: from, as you say, the bookends.

As anyone who runs a heavily trafficked blog knows, comments are more the exception than the rule.  In other words, commenters-to-readers, the rest being automatically pegged as &quot;lurkers&quot; (nothing wrong with that) is a fuzzy, correlational metric for the blog&#039;s ability to engage its readers.  And, ultimately, figuring out these variables from the readers&#039; perspective was the goal of both blog posts.

Of course, Dubner&#039;s more than welcome to comment here and let us know if he agrees with my assessment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>I appreciate you bringing up this nuance, but I still don&#8217;t believe Dubner is asking a different&#8211;let alone &#8220;opposite&#8221;&#8211;question.  Rather, his question is &#8220;&#8230;what kind of person comments on a blog, and why?&#8221; So, and please correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, it seems you&#8217;re suggesting that by not explicitly saying that we were also in search of qualitative variables about the commenters themselves, that we&#8217;re not every bit as interested as Dubner in why &#8220;lurkers,&#8221; would-be commenters and commenters (habitual or otherwise) do what they do as we are in the content that spurs them to comment (or not) in the first place.</p>
<p>(Sorry, even I had to re-read that last bit <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In fact, I&#8217;d argue that Dubner&#8217;s question didn&#8217;t do much to address the role of blog content itself as a key variable in all of this, as he chose to ask only about the people themselves and not their interaction with content. When he says the following, it&#8217;s not implicit that he&#8217;s only seeking people who don&#8217;t comment, just that his data will be skewed unless those who don&#8217;t generally comment do: &#8220;&#8230;regular commenters will be overrepresented in the comments — unless, of course, a whole bunch of you who never comment decide to go ahead and log in and, in the comments section, tell us why you never comment. Or why other people do.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, what&#8217;s the point?  The point is that, in both blog posts, THE COMMENTERS themselves chose to address the question the same way: from, as you say, the bookends.</p>
<p>As anyone who runs a heavily trafficked blog knows, comments are more the exception than the rule.  In other words, commenters-to-readers, the rest being automatically pegged as &#8220;lurkers&#8221; (nothing wrong with that) is a fuzzy, correlational metric for the blog&#8217;s ability to engage its readers.  And, ultimately, figuring out these variables from the readers&#8217; perspective was the goal of both blog posts.</p>
<p>Of course, Dubner&#8217;s more than welcome to comment here and let us know if he agrees with my assessment.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kimelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Kimelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, note that Dubner asked the opposite question. He asked why people do *not* comment, vs. why they do. So, the two questions form bookends. The why not question was sparked in part due to the moderate number of comments on their site (around 18 average I think) vs. some sites with hundreds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, note that Dubner asked the opposite question. He asked why people do *not* comment, vs. why they do. So, the two questions form bookends. The why not question was sparked in part due to the moderate number of comments on their site (around 18 average I think) vs. some sites with hundreds.</p>
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