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		<title>By: Steve Kirstein</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/03/19/why-does-every-b2b-lead-site-want-me-to-submit/comment-page-1/#comment-1148171</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Kirstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kendall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kendall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bryan Eisenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Eisenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich,

We have tested this many many times. Most often you want it as a graphic so that you can control the font, etc.

Bryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich,</p>
<p>We have tested this many many times. Most often you want it as a graphic so that you can control the font, etc.</p>
<p>Bryan</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Page</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Page</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. Bryan - have you guys done any A/B or multivariate testing using &#039;submit&#039; versus another call to action? 

The trouble I find with longer calls to actions on buttons, is that they can often get &#039;lost&#039; because of too much text. And they stretch the background image if you don&#039;t use a custom image, therefore look plain ugly and blurry, like this:
http://www.designdetector.com/bugs/ie6-stretched-button-bug.html

Also, submit has become so common because of &#039;web expectations&#039;. Submit was always the default value for submit buttons, and I guess the web world has gained accustumed to seeing it that way, much like they always see a logo in the top left. 

Interesting perspective though.

Rich Page</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. Bryan &#8211; have you guys done any A/B or multivariate testing using &#8217;submit&#8217; versus another call to action? </p>
<p>The trouble I find with longer calls to actions on buttons, is that they can often get &#8216;lost&#8217; because of too much text. And they stretch the background image if you don&#8217;t use a custom image, therefore look plain ugly and blurry, like this:<br />
<a href="http://www.designdetector.com/bugs/ie6-stretched-button-bug.html">http://www.designdetector.com/bugs/ie6-stretched-button-bug.html</a></p>
<p>Also, submit has become so common because of &#8216;web expectations&#8217;. Submit was always the default value for submit buttons, and I guess the web world has gained accustumed to seeing it that way, much like they always see a logo in the top left. </p>
<p>Interesting perspective though.</p>
<p>Rich Page</p>
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		<title>By: fishboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>fishboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think submit is easily recognizable, that is why it is used so often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think submit is easily recognizable, that is why it is used so often.</p>
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		<title>By: SileNT</title>
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		<dc:creator>SileNT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what&#039;s wrong with a plain &quot;Submit&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what&#8217;s wrong with a plain &#8220;Submit&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: When Developers Are Forced to Write Web Copy &#8212; Part 1</title>
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		<dc:creator>When Developers Are Forced to Write Web Copy &#8212; Part 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Are you sure there&#039;s a sub-topic? I haven&#039;t selected anything. (Submit may not be the best choice, either.) Regardless, this drop-down menu tells MySpace visitors that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Are you sure there&#39;s a sub-topic? I haven&#39;t selected anything. (Submit may not be the best choice, either.) Regardless, this drop-down menu tells MySpace visitors that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Leads</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a good point as I have wondered the same in the past. I did test it out and found it had no noticeable effect on leads gathered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a good point as I have wondered the same in the past. I did test it out and found it had no noticeable effect on leads gathered.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Kohl</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Kohl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 10:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bryan,

Pass me my whip and assume the position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan,</p>
<p>Pass me my whip and assume the position.</p>
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		<title>By: Arun Agrawal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arun Agrawal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 17:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David

I too am a strong believer of having an alternative clause that indicates what the visitor is getting, instead of the standard submit button. 

Your comment about the subscription rate going up when the privacy clause is not linked is a revelation. Thanks! Probably the visitor gets sidetracked when he/she clicks the privacy link. Did you have the link open a JavaScript window stating the policy (I recommend this) or you linked to your normal privacy page (strict no-no)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David</p>
<p>I too am a strong believer of having an alternative clause that indicates what the visitor is getting, instead of the standard submit button. </p>
<p>Your comment about the subscription rate going up when the privacy clause is not linked is a revelation. Thanks! Probably the visitor gets sidetracked when he/she clicks the privacy link. Did you have the link open a JavaScript window stating the policy (I recommend this) or you linked to your normal privacy page (strict no-no)?</p>
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		<title>By: Fade-to-Gray to Improve Experience</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fade-to-Gray to Improve Experience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 23:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] They could have done a quick search to gray out the submit button. Once they&#039;re done with this, you can talk to them about using the word &#039;submit&#039; on the button. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] They could have done a quick search to gray out the submit button. Once they&#39;re done with this, you can talk to them about using the word &#39;submit&#39; on the button. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 64 Tips for Getting Started with Google Website Optimizer &#187; Conversion Rate Marketing Blog &#8211;&#62;GrokDotCom by Future Now, Inc</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/03/19/why-does-every-b2b-lead-site-want-me-to-submit/comment-page-1/#comment-25543</link>
		<dc:creator>64 Tips for Getting Started with Google Website Optimizer &#187; Conversion Rate Marketing Blog &#8211;&#62;GrokDotCom by Future Now, Inc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Call to Action  1) Is your call to action distinctive? Does it stand out on the page? 2) Button Language or hyperlink anchor text 3) B2B Concerns - Are you asking leads to submit? 4) Button Colors &amp; Shapes [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Call to Action  1) Is your call to action distinctive? Does it stand out on the page? 2) Button Language or hyperlink anchor text 3) B2B Concerns &#8211; Are you asking leads to submit? 4) Button Colors &#38; Shapes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Lonely Marketer - a discussion for the small business marketing manager &#187; Notable Posts and Opening Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Lonely Marketer - a discussion for the small business marketing manager &#187; Notable Posts and Opening Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 00:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why Does Every B2B Lead Site Want me to Submit? by Bryan Eisenberg at grokdotcom. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bryan Eisenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Eisenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David

We have done extensive testing of link and unlinking the we value your privacy and have found the subscriber conversion rates go up when it is not linked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David</p>
<p>We have done extensive testing of link and unlinking the we value your privacy and have found the subscriber conversion rates go up when it is not linked.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Judson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Judson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David:

This is a great post! It&#039;s a reminder that seemingly small things, such as the words on the button, may have a big impact.

You ask why &quot;submit&quot; is so common. Here&#039;s one possible answer: all of the off-the-shelf form templates or third-party ASP&#039;s include this phrase. My experience is that sometimes it can be changed but in other cases the third-party ASP services have not considered that anyone might want to use a different phrase.

Once again, you have made an important point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David:</p>
<p>This is a great post! It&#8217;s a reminder that seemingly small things, such as the words on the button, may have a big impact.</p>
<p>You ask why &#8220;submit&#8221; is so common. Here&#8217;s one possible answer: all of the off-the-shelf form templates or third-party ASP&#8217;s include this phrase. My experience is that sometimes it can be changed but in other cases the third-party ASP services have not considered that anyone might want to use a different phrase.</p>
<p>Once again, you have made an important point.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Eisenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Eisenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, Our own button is changing.You know about the cobblers kids and all. The best calls to action remind people what they get for clicking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, Our own button is changing.You know about the cobblers kids and all. The best calls to action remind people what they get for clicking.</p>
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		<title>By: David L</title>
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		<dc:creator>David L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee Bryan, even your Blog asks me to &quot;Submit Comment&quot;.

I do think the language in your alternative is more pleasent (and am inclined to change our &quot;submit&quot; button), but is it scalable to the rest of a site&#039;s action items? Does &quot;Click to Subscribe&quot; become &quot;Please Subscribe Me to Your Newsletter&quot;?

One suggestion: if the visitor&#039;s privacy is important (as it states near your &quot;click to subscribe&quot; button), have that statement link to the formal privacy policy (instead of having a link in the smallest font size far far away in the footer).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee Bryan, even your Blog asks me to &#8220;Submit Comment&#8221;.</p>
<p>I do think the language in your alternative is more pleasent (and am inclined to change our &#8220;submit&#8221; button), but is it scalable to the rest of a site&#8217;s action items? Does &#8220;Click to Subscribe&#8221; become &#8220;Please Subscribe Me to Your Newsletter&#8221;?</p>
<p>One suggestion: if the visitor&#8217;s privacy is important (as it states near your &#8220;click to subscribe&#8221; button), have that statement link to the formal privacy policy (instead of having a link in the smallest font size far far away in the footer).</p>
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