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	<title>Comments on: Does Verizon Pay People To Lie?</title>
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		<title>By: news</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-1178532</link>
		<dc:creator>news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came to the wireless because it seems to be the best option I have, but with frequent disconnects and slow download speed and everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came to the wireless because it seems to be the best option I have, but with frequent disconnects and slow download speed and everything.</p>
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		<title>By: i'LL BE BAILED OUT BEFOR YOU</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-1113914</link>
		<dc:creator>i'LL BE BAILED OUT BEFOR YOU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES VERIZON LIES.  WE ARE DIRECTED TO DO SO.  SO WHAT?  WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?  NOTHING.  THE GOVERNMENT HAS THEIR EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT WITH US - WE ARE UNTOUCHABLE.  TRY AND BRING DOWN HALIBURTON WHILE YOU&#039;RE AT IT LOOSERS!!!   HA HA HA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES VERIZON LIES.  WE ARE DIRECTED TO DO SO.  SO WHAT?  WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?  NOTHING.  THE GOVERNMENT HAS THEIR EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT WITH US &#8211; WE ARE UNTOUCHABLE.  TRY AND BRING DOWN HALIBURTON WHILE YOU&#8217;RE AT IT LOOSERS!!!   HA HA HA</p>
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		<title>By: Spikehead777</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-891260</link>
		<dc:creator>Spikehead777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[vent]&quot;Verizon is the most reliable network&quot;

Yeah bullcrap. It&#039;s so reliable I only get maximum of 3 bars with my usb modem and I get frequent disconnects. Also, it asks me to reinstall the hardware, so I have to re-enable internet connection sharing for it so I can play Mario Kart Wii online. How about you give me the maximum 5 bars of signal and actually prevent me from getting disconnected instead of being stingy and giving me crap? I came to the wireless because it seems to be the best option I have, but with frequent disconnects and slow download speed and everything, I&#039;d say my best option now is either Satellite or Dial-Up. As Eminem says, &quot;Thanks for the support, asshole.&quot;.[/vent]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[vent]&#8220;Verizon is the most reliable network&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah bullcrap. It&#8217;s so reliable I only get maximum of 3 bars with my usb modem and I get frequent disconnects. Also, it asks me to reinstall the hardware, so I have to re-enable internet connection sharing for it so I can play Mario Kart Wii online. How about you give me the maximum 5 bars of signal and actually prevent me from getting disconnected instead of being stingy and giving me crap? I came to the wireless because it seems to be the best option I have, but with frequent disconnects and slow download speed and everything, I&#8217;d say my best option now is either Satellite or Dial-Up. As Eminem says, &#8220;Thanks for the support, asshole.&#8221;.[/vent]</p>
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		<title>By: elroy</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-808041</link>
		<dc:creator>elroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too many companies are trying to make quick money and are not looking into the long term aspect of there clients. Companies like VZW are alway coming and going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many companies are trying to make quick money and are not looking into the long term aspect of there clients. Companies like VZW are alway coming and going.</p>
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		<title>By: The Man</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-785080</link>
		<dc:creator>The Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS AGITATED IS A Lame guy that needs to be learning more about the products that Verizon offers . Instead of being online complaining to the consumer .=)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS AGITATED IS A Lame guy that needs to be learning more about the products that Verizon offers . Instead of being online complaining to the consumer .=)</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-665464</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in the VZW webchat service myself, I appreciate the fact that you did not directly base your negativity towards the consultants. We are literally given VERY little information. We rely heavily on pre-made paragraphs, and the VZW website itself for our information. There are lot of things that even I still don&#039;t know about our services. Even things on the website I have no idea about. We are told to sell, keep chat time low, and get good quality scores. 

To quote off some other comments:

&quot;I don’t think he was lying about the mac compatibility but he probably had some new info that didn’t make the site yet.&quot;
~ We are not given any information on anything new. We ourselves have to come in and check the website before our shifts to see if anything is new or changed.


&quot;Now, I’m convinced he’s an outsource from another country (just check the use of grammar and language&quot;
~Nope, we are outsourced, but here in the U.S. Bowling Green KY, and Opelika Alabama


&quot;Let’s look at the question: “Is it Mac compatible?” Verizon considers that to be “technical”? For a card that plugs into a laptop?? And they’re marketing themselves as the high-tech provider!??? Wow…&quot;
~ I totally agree! This information is readily available to us, so answering that would have been a simple matter. What would be a more baffeling question is &quot;What is the difference between the $29.99 aircard and the $109.99 aircard?&quot; I can never get a good answer from that!


I myself keep a blog of REDICULOUS chats I take to pull up for threads like this to prove the kind of drama we get, but I don&#039;t think this call for one. Straight to the point about everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in the VZW webchat service myself, I appreciate the fact that you did not directly base your negativity towards the consultants. We are literally given VERY little information. We rely heavily on pre-made paragraphs, and the VZW website itself for our information. There are lot of things that even I still don&#8217;t know about our services. Even things on the website I have no idea about. We are told to sell, keep chat time low, and get good quality scores. </p>
<p>To quote off some other comments:</p>
<p>&#8220;I don’t think he was lying about the mac compatibility but he probably had some new info that didn’t make the site yet.&#8221;<br />
~ We are not given any information on anything new. We ourselves have to come in and check the website before our shifts to see if anything is new or changed.</p>
<p>&#8220;Now, I’m convinced he’s an outsource from another country (just check the use of grammar and language&#8221;<br />
~Nope, we are outsourced, but here in the U.S. Bowling Green KY, and Opelika Alabama</p>
<p>&#8220;Let’s look at the question: “Is it Mac compatible?” Verizon considers that to be “technical”? For a card that plugs into a laptop?? And they’re marketing themselves as the high-tech provider!??? Wow…&#8221;<br />
~ I totally agree! This information is readily available to us, so answering that would have been a simple matter. What would be a more baffeling question is &#8220;What is the difference between the $29.99 aircard and the $109.99 aircard?&#8221; I can never get a good answer from that!</p>
<p>I myself keep a blog of REDICULOUS chats I take to pull up for threads like this to prove the kind of drama we get, but I don&#8217;t think this call for one. Straight to the point about everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Reeb</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-423317</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Reeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 05:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone inform me if with verizons wireless national broadband service is an email account (needed for sms texting via yh messenger)available?It appears I need a yahoo account such as ttttt@verizon.net yet cannot get any info from there tech support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone inform me if with verizons wireless national broadband service is an email account (needed for sms texting via yh messenger)available?It appears I need a yahoo account such as <a href="mailto:ttttt@verizon.net">ttttt@verizon.net</a> yet cannot get any info from there tech support.</p>
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		<title>By: Dado</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-112709</link>
		<dc:creator>Dado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 09:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops, my bad, they CAN text message the card!   There is a menu for text messages on the main program.  Hmmm, wonder how I can use that feature?  Also, I downloaded and used &quot;TCP optimizer&quot; and it really seemed to help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops, my bad, they CAN text message the card!   There is a menu for text messages on the main program.  Hmmm, wonder how I can use that feature?  Also, I downloaded and used &#8220;TCP optimizer&#8221; and it really seemed to help.</p>
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		<title>By: Dado</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-110239</link>
		<dc:creator>Dado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 03:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, Verizon doesn&#039;t know what they have. I just got my 5750 card hooked up and went online to set up my account.   They issue a phone number to the 5750 card (I guess it does phone into the system)and you use that to log in the first time.  Get this, they are texting my temporary password to the number of my PC card!   Oh yeah, they will snail mail me the temp. card if they are not successfull.  Meanwhile, I have TWO verizon phones sitting here they could text message, it&#039;s all in their computer, plus an email account......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, Verizon doesn&#8217;t know what they have. I just got my 5750 card hooked up and went online to set up my account.   They issue a phone number to the 5750 card (I guess it does phone into the system)and you use that to log in the first time.  Get this, they are texting my temporary password to the number of my PC card!   Oh yeah, they will snail mail me the temp. card if they are not successfull.  Meanwhile, I have TWO verizon phones sitting here they could text message, it&#8217;s all in their computer, plus an email account&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Branding Blog Post Round-Up @ chrisg.com</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-97198</link>
		<dc:creator>Branding Blog Post Round-Up @ chrisg.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] course as Robert Gorell reminds me, brands also lie &#8230;   Jeffrey likes to say &#8220;marketers are too often forced to make promises that the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] course as Robert Gorell reminds me, brands also lie &#8230;   Jeffrey likes to say &#8220;marketers are too often forced to make promises that the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Breaking Rumors, News, Truemors</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-86167</link>
		<dc:creator>Breaking Rumors, News, Truemors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Verizon Wireless  Pay People To Lie?       no score   &#160;&#160;  &#160;&#160; link &#160;&#160; spread    7:45 am by Bryan Eisenberg [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Verizon Wireless  Pay People To Lie?       no score   &nbsp;&nbsp;  &nbsp;&nbsp; link &nbsp;&nbsp; spread    7:45 am by Bryan Eisenberg [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve M</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-70454</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just be glad that you weren&#039;t dealing with RegisterFly... The new definition of worst-case-scenario. ;&#039;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just be glad that you weren&#8217;t dealing with RegisterFly&#8230; The new definition of worst-case-scenario. ;&#8217;)</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Patiro</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-65313</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Patiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent over 5 hours on the phone with Verizon being transfered from one department to the next, India, back to the States, probably logged a good 100,000 miles of traveling all the times I was transfered.  All because they hooked up internet on the wrong floor of my house and still haven&#039;t fixed it.  

Verizons customer service is unconscionable.  Sorry to read of the frustration... I feel your pain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent over 5 hours on the phone with Verizon being transfered from one department to the next, India, back to the States, probably logged a good 100,000 miles of traveling all the times I was transfered.  All because they hooked up internet on the wrong floor of my house and still haven&#8217;t fixed it.  </p>
<p>Verizons customer service is unconscionable.  Sorry to read of the frustration&#8230; I feel your pain.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Gorell</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-64291</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Gorell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dmac,

Wouldn&#039;t you say it&#039;s more a lack of planning on Verizon&#039;s part than a lack of training?  In other words, it seems they do a fair AMOUNT of training, but it&#039;s perhaps not as effective as it might otherwise be since neither the representative nor the customer has the information at their fingertips to answer some basic questions.

I see what you&#039;re saying about Wes&#039;s quip coming across as rough but, in a way, it almost humanizes the situation.  And I don&#039;t think In other words, it&#039;s (DEFINITELY) not the most professional thing he could&#039;ve said, but it makes it clear that he&#039;s being put in an awkward position by the company. 

Instant Message is a pretty flat medium, too, so it&#039;s a bit difficult to read someone&#039;s tone.  And I don&#039;t think Bryan was saying Wes&#039;s tone was unacceptable; rather, the response was unacceptable because Verizon hadn&#039;t given Wes the tools he needs to help the customer. 

Thanks for the intriguing comment...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dmac,</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t you say it&#8217;s more a lack of planning on Verizon&#8217;s part than a lack of training?  In other words, it seems they do a fair AMOUNT of training, but it&#8217;s perhaps not as effective as it might otherwise be since neither the representative nor the customer has the information at their fingertips to answer some basic questions.</p>
<p>I see what you&#8217;re saying about Wes&#8217;s quip coming across as rough but, in a way, it almost humanizes the situation.  And I don&#8217;t think In other words, it&#8217;s (DEFINITELY) not the most professional thing he could&#8217;ve said, but it makes it clear that he&#8217;s being put in an awkward position by the company. </p>
<p>Instant Message is a pretty flat medium, too, so it&#8217;s a bit difficult to read someone&#8217;s tone.  And I don&#8217;t think Bryan was saying Wes&#8217;s tone was unacceptable; rather, the response was unacceptable because Verizon hadn&#8217;t given Wes the tools he needs to help the customer. </p>
<p>Thanks for the intriguing comment&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dmac</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-64233</link>
		<dc:creator>Dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The key points I took away from this are:

• if you&#039;re going to provide online chat sales support, make sure your reps are trained to complete the sale with all of the neccessary information they need

• monitor your reps, expecially during the rollout of online sales chat, to make sure they aren&#039;t responding to prospects with arrogant comments. The arrogant comments probably came out of a frustration of not having the answers to complete the sale, so I don&#039;t blame the rep. He just didn&#039;t have the information he needed and wasn&#039;t properly trained, and that&#039;s the company&#039;s fault. This lack of training paints a larger picture into the lack of concern/professionalism that the company&#039;s business projects to it&#039;s customers.

• a prospect shouldn&#039;t have to be transferred to technical support to complete a sale...the comment &quot;Wes: We have spent 10 minutes discussing the question. If I knew don&#039;t you think I would have told you 10 minutes ago?&quot; is totally unacceptable. You&#039;re trying to buy this companies products and the rep is responding, with an attitude of, &quot;I really don&#039;t care if you buy from us or not, it&#039;s your decision&quot;.

In response to what other&#039;s have written, yes, this is a rant about customer service and the obstacle of not having enough information on the site to make a confident purchase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The key points I took away from this are:</p>
<p>• if you&#8217;re going to provide online chat sales support, make sure your reps are trained to complete the sale with all of the neccessary information they need</p>
<p>• monitor your reps, expecially during the rollout of online sales chat, to make sure they aren&#8217;t responding to prospects with arrogant comments. The arrogant comments probably came out of a frustration of not having the answers to complete the sale, so I don&#8217;t blame the rep. He just didn&#8217;t have the information he needed and wasn&#8217;t properly trained, and that&#8217;s the company&#8217;s fault. This lack of training paints a larger picture into the lack of concern/professionalism that the company&#8217;s business projects to it&#8217;s customers.</p>
<p>• a prospect shouldn&#8217;t have to be transferred to technical support to complete a sale&#8230;the comment &#8220;Wes: We have spent 10 minutes discussing the question. If I knew don&#8217;t you think I would have told you 10 minutes ago?&#8221; is totally unacceptable. You&#8217;re trying to buy this companies products and the rep is responding, with an attitude of, &#8220;I really don&#8217;t care if you buy from us or not, it&#8217;s your decision&#8221;.</p>
<p>In response to what other&#8217;s have written, yes, this is a rant about customer service and the obstacle of not having enough information on the site to make a confident purchase.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-57342</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 05:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PEOPLE JUST GET SPRINT THEY ARE THE BEST</description>
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		<title>By: Blog-conversion.com: le Blog dédié à l'optimisation du taux de conversion des sites Internet!</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-56086</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog-conversion.com: le Blog dédié à l'optimisation du taux de conversion des sites Internet!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 02:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] perles des clients dans les hotlines informatiques. Je vous propose à présent de découvrir le témoignage d&#8217;un prospect confronté à un conseiller qui est source d&#8217;insatisfaction et va faire [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-53851</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 04:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Scorpion and the Frog

Once there was a frog sittin chilling on a lilly pad in the middle of a creek. One day a scorpion comes to the edge of the creek and meets the frog on the bank and asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The frog  crys and then asks after, &quot;You must be crazy, you are a scorpion and i am a frog, if i help u, u will sting me and worse do it when we&#039;re midstream in the creek and i&#039;ll die; How do I know you won&#039;t sting me?&quot;  The scorpion says, &quot;logically if I do sting u, especially midstream, I will die too; obviously i can&#039;t swim or i wouldn&#039;t be asking for a ride. if we are crossing the creek and midstream i sting u, true u will sink and drown but i die with u, and that is illogical cause we animals want to survive, plus frogs aren&#039;t in my diet, u should check out the discovery channel sometime, if u had you&#039;d know im being honest and plus if u know i can sting and kill you know the rest, i can&#039;t swim i want to live, i don&#039;t eat frogs.  i may be the one your mother warned u about when u were little but now that you&#039;ve met me, am i as bad as u imagined? probably not.&quot;

The frog is satisfied by the facts the scorpion presented, and they set out, but in midstream, the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown, but has just enough time to gasp &quot;Why?&quot;

Replies the scorpion: &quot;I am what i am&quot;

Ok so what you&#039;ve read makes no sense and u think im crazy.  long story short i just started working for verizon wireless in customer service not long ago (no im not a newbie) ive done wireless for indirect companies including radioshack corp since 1999.  In my training @vzw we are taught how to look out for the company and save the company money (who isn&#039;t when they work for someone?) don&#039;t throw stones at verizon or any company, because if they didn&#039;t make money they wouldn&#039;t exist or would (if u think vzw shits you) they would really shit you.  Yes we are taught to look out for our companies income, but we are taught something else that holds more importance than making verizon money.  
  Believe it or not.  We are taught to above all be our customer&#039;s advocate (meaning we look out for ways to save you money vs not and us making money off whatever situation is there) If you have cellular service (postpaid) you have decent credit and you weren&#039;t just given it by god&#039;s will. you paid your bills. 
    At verizon as much Equal Op Emp as they may be, unbiased they taught me to go by the golden rule.  Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.  

Every company has things people don&#039;t like, quite frankly i love my company, because i&#039;ve seen they go to great lenghs to look out for their customers. more so to the customers that return the favor.  

In my 8 years of cell phone jobs i ask u only to consider this:  don&#039;t be so quick to throw blame, please try to listen, there may be somebody along the lines really trying to help you.</description>
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<p>Once there was a frog sittin chilling on a lilly pad in the middle of a creek. One day a scorpion comes to the edge of the creek and meets the frog on the bank and asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The frog  crys and then asks after, &#8220;You must be crazy, you are a scorpion and i am a frog, if i help u, u will sting me and worse do it when we&#8217;re midstream in the creek and i&#8217;ll die; How do I know you won&#8217;t sting me?&#8221;  The scorpion says, &#8220;logically if I do sting u, especially midstream, I will die too; obviously i can&#8217;t swim or i wouldn&#8217;t be asking for a ride. if we are crossing the creek and midstream i sting u, true u will sink and drown but i die with u, and that is illogical cause we animals want to survive, plus frogs aren&#8217;t in my diet, u should check out the discovery channel sometime, if u had you&#8217;d know im being honest and plus if u know i can sting and kill you know the rest, i can&#8217;t swim i want to live, i don&#8217;t eat frogs.  i may be the one your mother warned u about when u were little but now that you&#8217;ve met me, am i as bad as u imagined? probably not.&#8221;</p>
<p>The frog is satisfied by the facts the scorpion presented, and they set out, but in midstream, the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown, but has just enough time to gasp &#8220;Why?&#8221;</p>
<p>Replies the scorpion: &#8220;I am what i am&#8221;</p>
<p>Ok so what you&#8217;ve read makes no sense and u think im crazy.  long story short i just started working for verizon wireless in customer service not long ago (no im not a newbie) ive done wireless for indirect companies including radioshack corp since 1999.  In my training @vzw we are taught how to look out for the company and save the company money (who isn&#8217;t when they work for someone?) don&#8217;t throw stones at verizon or any company, because if they didn&#8217;t make money they wouldn&#8217;t exist or would (if u think vzw shits you) they would really shit you.  Yes we are taught to look out for our companies income, but we are taught something else that holds more importance than making verizon money.<br />
  Believe it or not.  We are taught to above all be our customer&#8217;s advocate (meaning we look out for ways to save you money vs not and us making money off whatever situation is there) If you have cellular service (postpaid) you have decent credit and you weren&#8217;t just given it by god&#8217;s will. you paid your bills.<br />
    At verizon as much Equal Op Emp as they may be, unbiased they taught me to go by the golden rule.  Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.  </p>
<p>Every company has things people don&#8217;t like, quite frankly i love my company, because i&#8217;ve seen they go to great lenghs to look out for their customers. more so to the customers that return the favor.  </p>
<p>In my 8 years of cell phone jobs i ask u only to consider this:  don&#8217;t be so quick to throw blame, please try to listen, there may be somebody along the lines really trying to help you.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Gorell</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-52525</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Gorell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 07:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana,

Thanks for the link to that story... It inspired me to write about a company that helps you avoid robotic support (linked above)  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana,</p>
<p>Thanks for the link to that story&#8230; It inspired me to write about a company that helps you avoid robotic support (linked above)  <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: How to Beat the Customer Service Robots</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-52372</link>
		<dc:creator>How to Beat the Customer Service Robots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 02:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Verizon, the folks at Bringo.com are definitely not waiting for their cat to bark. Technorati Tags: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Verizon, the folks at Bringo.com are definitely not waiting for their cat to bark. Technorati Tags: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-52351</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 02:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://telephonyonline.com/mag/telecom_upsourcing/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://telephonyonline.com/mag/telecom_upsourcing/">http://telephonyonline.com/mag/telecom_upsourcing/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-52350</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 02:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the posts by Agitated with growing confusion.  Then I Googled &quot;upsourcing&quot; -- a term with which I was not familar.  Thought I&#039;d share the the first reference which menntions Verizon but not in the expected way.  Agitated might be surprised to learn that his or her company may not have come up with the idea afterall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the posts by Agitated with growing confusion.  Then I Googled &#8220;upsourcing&#8221; &#8212; a term with which I was not familar.  Thought I&#8217;d share the the first reference which menntions Verizon but not in the expected way.  Agitated might be surprised to learn that his or her company may not have come up with the idea afterall.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Gorell</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-46358</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Gorell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 12:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agitated,

Thanks for clarifying how Verizon really feels about its customers and would-be customers.  Well, I hope that&#039;s not the refrain (&quot;you give them and inch and they want to take a mile&quot;). 

So, why then is Verizon promising not just inches, but &quot;the most reliable network&quot; in America--everywhere in America?  That&#039;s a question for Verizon&#039;s marketers, not its customer service or pre-sales people.

In fact, people like yourself are the only ones who seem to be helping over there.  But to say that &quot;they train us to be equipped with the information we need to know to answer questions&quot; is just nuts. If that were the case, Bryan would be a proud new Verizon customer--and we&#039;d be blogging about how great the experience was!

It was already clear that you worked for them, thanks...

Believe me, we understand that the company is feeding you lines that are incomplete and/or insufficient.  And I wasn&#039;t trying to be cute when I scoffed at &quot;upsourcing.&quot; I may find it silly, but it&#039;s still a euphemism--and one that you brought up.

Sorry you don&#039;t like our blog.  It&#039;s about helping companies bridge the gap between their sales process and the customer&#039;s buying process.  If that&#039;s not relevant to you, particularly when we&#039;re talking about things your employer could do to make your job easier, I still hope you find occasion to enjoy your work. 

At least we take your agitation seriously...

-Robert</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agitated,</p>
<p>Thanks for clarifying how Verizon really feels about its customers and would-be customers.  Well, I hope that&#8217;s not the refrain (&#8221;you give them and inch and they want to take a mile&#8221;). </p>
<p>So, why then is Verizon promising not just inches, but &#8220;the most reliable network&#8221; in America&#8211;everywhere in America?  That&#8217;s a question for Verizon&#8217;s marketers, not its customer service or pre-sales people.</p>
<p>In fact, people like yourself are the only ones who seem to be helping over there.  But to say that &#8220;they train us to be equipped with the information we need to know to answer questions&#8221; is just nuts. If that were the case, Bryan would be a proud new Verizon customer&#8211;and we&#8217;d be blogging about how great the experience was!</p>
<p>It was already clear that you worked for them, thanks&#8230;</p>
<p>Believe me, we understand that the company is feeding you lines that are incomplete and/or insufficient.  And I wasn&#8217;t trying to be cute when I scoffed at &#8220;upsourcing.&#8221; I may find it silly, but it&#8217;s still a euphemism&#8211;and one that you brought up.</p>
<p>Sorry you don&#8217;t like our blog.  It&#8217;s about helping companies bridge the gap between their sales process and the customer&#8217;s buying process.  If that&#8217;s not relevant to you, particularly when we&#8217;re talking about things your employer could do to make your job easier, I still hope you find occasion to enjoy your work. </p>
<p>At least we take your agitation seriously&#8230;</p>
<p>-Robert</p>
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		<title>By: Agitated</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-46274</link>
		<dc:creator>Agitated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 10:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, first of all the company came up with the idea of upsourcing so I would appreciate it if you would not be a smart ass about it.  Secondly they train us to be equipped with the information we need to know to answer questions.  Again we are a Pre Sales Specialist  ( hint: it says that when the chat comes up)  not a technical department.  It is very hard to make people especially customers happy these days. You give them an inch and they want to take a mile.  This little blog website is stupid. For your information I am employed with Verzion so it shows how  much you and Bryan know.  Next time keep your smart comments to your self.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, first of all the company came up with the idea of upsourcing so I would appreciate it if you would not be a smart ass about it.  Secondly they train us to be equipped with the information we need to know to answer questions.  Again we are a Pre Sales Specialist  ( hint: it says that when the chat comes up)  not a technical department.  It is very hard to make people especially customers happy these days. You give them an inch and they want to take a mile.  This little blog website is stupid. For your information I am employed with Verzion so it shows how  much you and Bryan know.  Next time keep your smart comments to your self.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Eisenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/05/03/does-verizons-pay-people-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-45955</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Eisenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 03:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deborah,

I am sorry that you didn&#039;t find value in the post. It is hard to please everyone. For clarity’s sake, let’s take a step back and look at the purpose of the post. The purpose of the post is to show a real life example of how websites are not answering their visitors’ questions.  

The first part of the post showed how easy it is to design a site without taking into consideration the questions your customers are asking. If there had been information on the site that answered those questions, there never would have been a need to initiate live chat.

Depending on which report you look at, 70-80% of consumers do research on the Internet before purchasing a product. If they can’t get answers to their questions, they don’t have the confidence to purchase.    

Since many sites do such a poor job of answering their visitors’ questions, live chat is often the only resource available for that information.

Let’s be clear. It is not the live chat agent’s fault that the website didn’t have the information that answered the visitor’s questions. It was also not his fault that his company hadn’t provided the training or the answers he needed to be able to execute his job to the best of his ability. He was doing the best he could.   

He was eventually able to get some good information and pass it along.   

Too often, people on the front line aren’t given the information or resources they need to provide the kind of customer service their company is promising. Better website planning that takes into account customers questions, and provides answers to those questions, will lead to less frustrated customer service people, and less frustrated customers.  

I am sorry to have frustrated you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deborah,</p>
<p>I am sorry that you didn&#8217;t find value in the post. It is hard to please everyone. For clarity’s sake, let’s take a step back and look at the purpose of the post. The purpose of the post is to show a real life example of how websites are not answering their visitors’ questions.  </p>
<p>The first part of the post showed how easy it is to design a site without taking into consideration the questions your customers are asking. If there had been information on the site that answered those questions, there never would have been a need to initiate live chat.</p>
<p>Depending on which report you look at, 70-80% of consumers do research on the Internet before purchasing a product. If they can’t get answers to their questions, they don’t have the confidence to purchase.    </p>
<p>Since many sites do such a poor job of answering their visitors’ questions, live chat is often the only resource available for that information.</p>
<p>Let’s be clear. It is not the live chat agent’s fault that the website didn’t have the information that answered the visitor’s questions. It was also not his fault that his company hadn’t provided the training or the answers he needed to be able to execute his job to the best of his ability. He was doing the best he could.   </p>
<p>He was eventually able to get some good information and pass it along.   </p>
<p>Too often, people on the front line aren’t given the information or resources they need to provide the kind of customer service their company is promising. Better website planning that takes into account customers questions, and provides answers to those questions, will lead to less frustrated customer service people, and less frustrated customers.  </p>
<p>I am sorry to have frustrated you.</p>
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