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	<title>Comments on: Stop Being a &#8220;More-on&#8221;!</title>
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		<title>By: Optimizing Website &#38; Landing Page Copy - A 10 Step Process &#124; FutureNow's GrokDotCom / Marketing Optimization Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-1167274</link>
		<dc:creator>Optimizing Website &#38; Landing Page Copy - A 10 Step Process &#124; FutureNow's GrokDotCom / Marketing Optimization Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 17:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Usability guru Jakob Nielsen recently wrote about his research about the importance of keywords in your hyperlinks. Jeff Sexton shares how to write more persuasive hyperlinks and calls to action so you don&#8217;t sound like a &#8220;more-on&#8220;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Usability guru Jakob Nielsen recently wrote about his research about the importance of keywords in your hyperlinks. Jeff Sexton shares how to write more persuasive hyperlinks and calls to action so you don&#8217;t sound like a &#8220;more-on&#8220;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Doesn’t Graphic Design/Layout Affect Scanning Patterns? - News: Everything-e</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-1158009</link>
		<dc:creator>Doesn’t Graphic Design/Layout Affect Scanning Patterns? - News: Everything-e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] waste hyperlink words on non-descriptive or generic words.  Make links keyword rich and ensure [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] waste hyperlink words on non-descriptive or generic words.  Make links keyword rich and ensure [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Doesn&#8217;t Graphic Design/Layout Affect Scanning Patterns? &#124; FutureNow's GrokDotCom / Marketing Optimization Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-1158007</link>
		<dc:creator>Doesn&#8217;t Graphic Design/Layout Affect Scanning Patterns? &#124; FutureNow's GrokDotCom / Marketing Optimization Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] waste hyperlink words on non-descriptive or generic words.  Make links keyword rich and ensure that customers can predict where the link will take them.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] waste hyperlink words on non-descriptive or generic words.  Make links keyword rich and ensure that customers can predict where the link will take them.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Write Blog &#187; Get More Click-Throughs by Writing Better Links</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-1157262</link>
		<dc:creator>The Write Blog &#187; Get More Click-Throughs by Writing Better Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to think any of the above suggestions are very effective since there’s no call to action. You can read the full article here . They suggest that your hyperlink should be persuasive. So instead of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to think any of the above suggestions are very effective since there’s no call to action. You can read the full article here . They suggest that your hyperlink should be persuasive. So instead of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ponder Marketing &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Call to action: don&#8217;t be a &#8220;More On&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-236831</link>
		<dc:creator>Ponder Marketing &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Call to action: don&#8217;t be a &#8220;More On&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] came across a really good copywriting post at Grokdotcom, Stop Being a &#8220;More-On&#8221;. This argues for eliminating the web copywriting cliche of ending a paragraph with a hyperlinked [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] came across a really good copywriting post at Grokdotcom, Stop Being a &#8220;More-On&#8221;. This argues for eliminating the web copywriting cliche of ending a paragraph with a hyperlinked [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-236819</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post, really good observation. I think any time you can simultaneously provide better information to the user and improve your SEO, it&#039;s a double-gimme. One caveat: I wonder about the potential to abuse this and clutter up your copy unnecessarily. At times, less really is more. (But you don&#039;t have to call it that).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post, really good observation. I think any time you can simultaneously provide better information to the user and improve your SEO, it&#8217;s a double-gimme. One caveat: I wonder about the potential to abuse this and clutter up your copy unnecessarily. At times, less really is more. (But you don&#8217;t have to call it that).</p>
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		<title>By: Vince Poscente</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-153995</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince Poscente</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great tip... &quot;more-on&#039;s&quot; begone.

&quot;How to&#039;s&quot; rule!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great tip&#8230; &#8220;more-on&#8217;s&#8221; begone.</p>
<p>&#8220;How to&#8217;s&#8221; rule!</p>
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		<title>By: P.J. Man</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-152891</link>
		<dc:creator>P.J. Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason: great blog post man!  I&#039;m going to try it right away!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason: great blog post man!  I&#8217;m going to try it right away!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Billingsley</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-147784</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Billingsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ P.J. Man

I have seen some testing done on the use of an ellipsis (...) in short character situations (ala AdWords) and it produced a substantial improvement in CTR. It&#039;s from the guys over at MindValley Labs
http://blog.mindvalleylabs.com/marketing/google-adwords-tips-an-awesome-new-formula-with-impressive-results/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ P.J. Man</p>
<p>I have seen some testing done on the use of an ellipsis (&#8230;) in short character situations (ala AdWords) and it produced a substantial improvement in CTR. It&#8217;s from the guys over at MindValley Labs<br />
<a href="http://blog.mindvalleylabs.com/marketing/google-adwords-tips-an-awesome-new-formula-with-impressive-results/">http://blog.mindvalleylabs.com/marketing/google-adwords-tips-an-awesome-new-formula-with-impressive-results/</a></p>
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		<title>By: yowchuan</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-147417</link>
		<dc:creator>yowchuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great tip there! I really haven&#039;t thought much about that until I read this post. &quot;More on&quot; feels like reading an elaborate version of a summary, which in most cases, rather misleading.

Yeah, with a catch sentence to lead the readers to the full text version, I am pretty sure the &quot;conversion&quot; is at least 50 to 60 percent than just using plain &quot;more-on&#039;s&quot;!

Totally agree!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great tip there! I really haven&#8217;t thought much about that until I read this post. &#8220;More on&#8221; feels like reading an elaborate version of a summary, which in most cases, rather misleading.</p>
<p>Yeah, with a catch sentence to lead the readers to the full text version, I am pretty sure the &#8220;conversion&#8221; is at least 50 to 60 percent than just using plain &#8220;more-on&#8217;s&#8221;!</p>
<p>Totally agree!</p>
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		<title>By: Henri van den Hoof</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-147167</link>
		<dc:creator>Henri van den Hoof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great title! ;-)

Anyway good stuff. Hadn&#039;t really given it much thought, so I have been using the More-on approach quite often. But definitely will change that now. Even though It will be a challenge sometimes to keep the sentences short and not too repetitive with words...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great title! <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway good stuff. Hadn&#8217;t really given it much thought, so I have been using the More-on approach quite often. But definitely will change that now. Even though It will be a challenge sometimes to keep the sentences short and not too repetitive with words&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: P.J. Man</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-146176</link>
		<dc:creator>P.J. Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find myself a forced More-on at times.  

For instance now, the project I&#039;m working on pushes a ebook and the client wants to link to their archive of other tools and ebooks with a single link. I only have a fixed amount of characters to use because of web guru and graphic genius limited me to 10 characters I can use.  The best response I have got so far is from the words

&quot;See others&quot;

I&#039;m hitting my head against the wall with this one. I&#039;ve begged and pleaded with the client to give me just 5 more characters, but no dice.  This isn&#039;t the first time, it happens often.

There are millions of resources I use for my copy writing, but I have never seen a resource that provides ideas based on numbers of characters. That would be a god-send.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find myself a forced More-on at times.  </p>
<p>For instance now, the project I&#8217;m working on pushes a ebook and the client wants to link to their archive of other tools and ebooks with a single link. I only have a fixed amount of characters to use because of web guru and graphic genius limited me to 10 characters I can use.  The best response I have got so far is from the words</p>
<p>&#8220;See others&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hitting my head against the wall with this one. I&#8217;ve begged and pleaded with the client to give me just 5 more characters, but no dice.  This isn&#8217;t the first time, it happens often.</p>
<p>There are millions of resources I use for my copy writing, but I have never seen a resource that provides ideas based on numbers of characters. That would be a god-send.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Carter</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-144851</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.

I&#039;d add that saying &#039;Read More&#039; reminds them that they&#039;re reading, which sounds like work. 

Even an avid reader like me would prefer to &quot;See how Steve doubled his income in one year.&quot;

Thanks!
Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d add that saying &#8216;Read More&#8217; reminds them that they&#8217;re reading, which sounds like work. </p>
<p>Even an avid reader like me would prefer to &#8220;See how Steve doubled his income in one year.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks!<br />
Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Gorell</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-144766</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Gorell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,

Good question, but keep in mind that Jeff&#039;s post is all about which calls to action (in this case, links) one highlights.  You&#039;ve hit on the irony, but here&#039;s the intent:

Had the entire sentence been linked, it would have seemed more rhetorical.  Instead, Jeff is making the point that linking &quot;learn more&quot; would have been less valuable than linking the relevant part of the sentence -- which, by the way, doesn&#039;t include the sentence that surrounds it (i.e., the question mark isn&#039;t linked).

More to your point, though, context is everything.  Besides, I&#039;ve yet to meet a copywriter who doesn&#039;t appreciate rhetoric. :)  

So, calls to action should correspond the goals of one&#039;s audience at a given stage.  For example, see how the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/06/14/persuasive-online-copywriting-seminar-2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;calls to action change once you click through&lt;/a&gt;?  Now do you see why I linked what I did in the previous sentence?

Great question... Hope this clarifies a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,</p>
<p>Good question, but keep in mind that Jeff&#8217;s post is all about which calls to action (in this case, links) one highlights.  You&#8217;ve hit on the irony, but here&#8217;s the intent:</p>
<p>Had the entire sentence been linked, it would have seemed more rhetorical.  Instead, Jeff is making the point that linking &#8220;learn more&#8221; would have been less valuable than linking the relevant part of the sentence &#8212; which, by the way, doesn&#8217;t include the sentence that surrounds it (i.e., the question mark isn&#8217;t linked).</p>
<p>More to your point, though, context is everything.  Besides, I&#8217;ve yet to meet a copywriter who doesn&#8217;t appreciate rhetoric. <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>So, calls to action should correspond the goals of one&#8217;s audience at a given stage.  For example, see how the <a href="http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/06/14/persuasive-online-copywriting-seminar-2/">calls to action change once you click through</a>?  Now do you see why I linked what I did in the previous sentence?</p>
<p>Great question&#8230; Hope this clarifies a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-144729</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great piece. Ironic that the last link in the P.S. is a rhetorical question rather than an imperative. Isn&#039;t the copy writing rule of thumb to avoid rhetorical questions for fear that the unspoken answer might be &quot;no&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece. Ironic that the last link in the P.S. is a rhetorical question rather than an imperative. Isn&#8217;t the copy writing rule of thumb to avoid rhetorical questions for fear that the unspoken answer might be &#8220;no&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Eisenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-144728</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Eisenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Usability experts should recognize this as a scent of information issue. 

SE marketers should see the search engine results implications. 

Copywriters should see the need for clarifying benefits. 

This should be taught as &quot;Online Writing: Obvious 101.&quot;  It&#039;s so often neglected that when &quot;online gurus&quot; want to have any graduate level discussions I&#039;m tempted to send them back for remedial 101 courses. If you get the fundamentals right the rest will follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Usability experts should recognize this as a scent of information issue. </p>
<p>SE marketers should see the search engine results implications. </p>
<p>Copywriters should see the need for clarifying benefits. </p>
<p>This should be taught as &#8220;Online Writing: Obvious 101.&#8221;  It&#8217;s so often neglected that when &#8220;online gurus&#8221; want to have any graduate level discussions I&#8217;m tempted to send them back for remedial 101 courses. If you get the fundamentals right the rest will follow.</p>
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		<title>By: bl.asphemo.us</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-144718</link>
		<dc:creator>bl.asphemo.us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s important to also note that such lead-in and/or continuation anchor text isn&#039;t just an important area to make calls to action compelling for human users. Planting targeted keywords within internal linking structure is also an easily overlooked item for SEO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s important to also note that such lead-in and/or continuation anchor text isn&#8217;t just an important area to make calls to action compelling for human users. Planting targeted keywords within internal linking structure is also an easily overlooked item for SEO.</p>
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		<title>By: allanGEE!</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-144680</link>
		<dc:creator>allanGEE!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We run into a very similar thing in our scripts -- especially event and retail copy.  It usually presents itself as &quot;and more&quot; though.   As in, &quot;...thrill rides on the midway, mouth-watering food, prizes, AND MORE!&quot;

What we&#039;re really saying is, &quot;and more stuff not important enough to mention!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We run into a very similar thing in our scripts &#8212; especially event and retail copy.  It usually presents itself as &#8220;and more&#8221; though.   As in, &#8220;&#8230;thrill rides on the midway, mouth-watering food, prizes, AND MORE!&#8221;</p>
<p>What we&#8217;re really saying is, &#8220;and more stuff not important enough to mention!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-144616</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right - hopefully once and for all this will get my clients usability expert to shut up and let us build their site to make them money. Will let you know the results</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right &#8211; hopefully once and for all this will get my clients usability expert to shut up and let us build their site to make them money. Will let you know the results</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/13/stop-being-a-more-on/comment-page-1/#comment-144533</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a million page view tip ! Thanks for making it clear enough that even a more-on like me can see the light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a million page view tip ! Thanks for making it clear enough that even a more-on like me can see the light.</p>
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