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	<title>Comments on: Would You Buy a Bra From This Man?</title>
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		<title>By: Cinderella</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-1171906</link>
		<dc:creator>Cinderella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buy the bra from Zafu.com? That really a little bit shy, but if it&#039;s good for the woman&#039;s health, this is suggestive choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buy the bra from Zafu.com? That really a little bit shy, but if it&#8217;s good for the woman&#8217;s health, this is suggestive choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Eran</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-627675</link>
		<dc:creator>Eran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... I&#039;m a guy &amp; I didn&#039;t find this amusing in the slightest!

In fact, it was just plain dumb IMO. I can&#039;t imagine too many women thinking this is a good &quot;call to action&quot; to go check out zafu&#039;s site, and no man is likely to be amused at it if he&#039;s actually trying to buy a bra for his lady.

Trying to be too clever &amp; creative = LOST OPPORTUNITY 4 Sales.

Fire the ad team that came up with this dog, I say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; I&#8217;m a guy &amp; I didn&#8217;t find this amusing in the slightest!</p>
<p>In fact, it was just plain dumb IMO. I can&#8217;t imagine too many women thinking this is a good &#8220;call to action&#8221; to go check out zafu&#8217;s site, and no man is likely to be amused at it if he&#8217;s actually trying to buy a bra for his lady.</p>
<p>Trying to be too clever &amp; creative = LOST OPPORTUNITY 4 Sales.</p>
<p>Fire the ad team that came up with this dog, I say!</p>
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		<title>By: John D</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-585240</link>
		<dc:creator>John D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Advertising proposition is &quot;A Perfect Bra in 3 minutes&quot;.
From the comments so far that seems to resonate with many respondents. Shouldn&#039;t the Concept therefore be about Speed and Perfection?
Zafu could have demonstrated the positive consequences of having the perfect bra fitted in record time or the negative results of having a Not-Perfect bra fitted in an excruciating length of time.
The car park scenario is irrelevant to the Proposition and as a piece of advertising is just Dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Advertising proposition is &#8220;A Perfect Bra in 3 minutes&#8221;.<br />
From the comments so far that seems to resonate with many respondents. Shouldn&#8217;t the Concept therefore be about Speed and Perfection?<br />
Zafu could have demonstrated the positive consequences of having the perfect bra fitted in record time or the negative results of having a Not-Perfect bra fitted in an excruciating length of time.<br />
The car park scenario is irrelevant to the Proposition and as a piece of advertising is just Dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: Do Men and Women Laugh at the Same Ads?</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-577901</link>
		<dc:creator>Do Men and Women Laugh at the Same Ads?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] showed the &quot;Bra Scientist&quot; video clip by Zafu that I blogged about last [...]</description>
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		<title>By: First, Convince Me to Trust You &#187; Finance, SEO, Real Estate and More</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-304064</link>
		<dc:creator>First, Convince Me to Trust You &#187; Finance, SEO, Real Estate and More</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to Trust You   August 08, 2007 No comment  Holly Buchanan from FutureNow has a fun blog post called Would You Buy A Bra From This Man? I watched it and no, I would not. She’s seeking comments on the video advertisement. I responded [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to Trust You   August 08, 2007 No comment  Holly Buchanan from FutureNow has a fun blog post called Would You Buy A Bra From This Man? I watched it and no, I would not. She’s seeking comments on the video advertisement. I responded [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kinetic Ideas: Marketing Blog &#187; Branding Bras: Does this Marketing Approach Work For You? Small Business Marketing Ideas, Marketing Tips</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-292992</link>
		<dc:creator>Kinetic Ideas: Marketing Blog &#187; Branding Bras: Does this Marketing Approach Work For You? Small Business Marketing Ideas, Marketing Tips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] read a recent post on Grokdotcom about a campaign by Zafu.com. Now for those readers who are not familiar with Zafu, it&#8217;s a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] read a recent post on Grokdotcom about a campaign by Zafu.com. Now for those readers who are not familiar with Zafu, it&#8217;s a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marketing Lens - Today&#8217;s Top Blog Posts on Marketing - Powered by SocialRank</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-228045</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing Lens - Today&#8217;s Top Blog Posts on Marketing - Powered by SocialRank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 04:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Zafu.com: The Bra Scientist - Viral Video Analysis [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Eisenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-222386</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Eisenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess we should say thank you for sharing.</description>
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		<title>By: A male reader</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-221617</link>
		<dc:creator>A male reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why in the world would someone take offense at this?  Who cares if the guy is a geeky/creepy guy, doesn&#039;t anyone know how to handle themselves anymore?  This is the problem with America. Noone knows how to deal with people anymore because their main communication is faceless or absent: Cell phones, email, television, and video games.  Everyone is paranoid and ADD.  Of course, thats what happens when you dont practice engaging with people.  You no longer know how to communicate with or read them.

For those who take offense at this you are wasting your time.  With Jena 6, violent movies and music, and moronic television shows there are plenty of other REAL issues to gripe about</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why in the world would someone take offense at this?  Who cares if the guy is a geeky/creepy guy, doesn&#8217;t anyone know how to handle themselves anymore?  This is the problem with America. Noone knows how to deal with people anymore because their main communication is faceless or absent: Cell phones, email, television, and video games.  Everyone is paranoid and ADD.  Of course, thats what happens when you dont practice engaging with people.  You no longer know how to communicate with or read them.</p>
<p>For those who take offense at this you are wasting your time.  With Jena 6, violent movies and music, and moronic television shows there are plenty of other REAL issues to gripe about</p>
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		<title>By: Holly Buchanan</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-202593</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert makes some great points.  At the end of the day, what matters is if this video leads to more bra sales. Does the content accurately and quickly convey the true benefits of buying a bra at Zafu.com for those who have no idea who Zafu is or what they do. 

But I do want to address one theme that has come up throughout the comments - &quot;is this video offensive to women.&quot; I&#039;ve corresponded online and offline with many of you - and here&#039;s what I&#039;m hearing:

Some women say there is nothing at all offensive.  It&#039;s funny and clever. It made me laugh out loud.    

Some women say it&#039;s very offensive. Who would buy a bra or anything else from these folks?  

There is no right or wrong response. Some women are offended.  some women aren&#039;t.   But you have to honor their opinions. If someone is not offended - they have every right to their feelings.  If someone IS offended, it&#039;s dangerous to just write them off as  prude or not a member of &quot;The YouTube generation.&quot; It&#039;s dangerous to tell them they are &quot;wrong&quot; for being offended.

I&#039;m referring here to marketing to women campaigns in general, not just Zafu.

This is a HUGE issue when marketing to women. I find many women don&#039;t speak out for the very fear that they will be put down or accused of being old or a prude for finding marketing material offensive.   They don&#039;t write to the company, they don&#039;t comment on the blog - they simply add the product or company to their &quot;I will never buy from.....&quot; list. 

You can&#039;t please everybody. Chances are you&#039;re going to tick someone off.  So look at who your core audience is. They&#039;re the only opinion that matters.  But do listen to their opinions.

Thanks to every single one of your for your great comments and interesting discussions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert makes some great points.  At the end of the day, what matters is if this video leads to more bra sales. Does the content accurately and quickly convey the true benefits of buying a bra at Zafu.com for those who have no idea who Zafu is or what they do. </p>
<p>But I do want to address one theme that has come up throughout the comments &#8211; &#8220;is this video offensive to women.&#8221; I&#8217;ve corresponded online and offline with many of you &#8211; and here&#8217;s what I&#8217;m hearing:</p>
<p>Some women say there is nothing at all offensive.  It&#8217;s funny and clever. It made me laugh out loud.    </p>
<p>Some women say it&#8217;s very offensive. Who would buy a bra or anything else from these folks?  </p>
<p>There is no right or wrong response. Some women are offended.  some women aren&#8217;t.   But you have to honor their opinions. If someone is not offended &#8211; they have every right to their feelings.  If someone IS offended, it&#8217;s dangerous to just write them off as  prude or not a member of &#8220;The YouTube generation.&#8221; It&#8217;s dangerous to tell them they are &#8220;wrong&#8221; for being offended.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m referring here to marketing to women campaigns in general, not just Zafu.</p>
<p>This is a HUGE issue when marketing to women. I find many women don&#8217;t speak out for the very fear that they will be put down or accused of being old or a prude for finding marketing material offensive.   They don&#8217;t write to the company, they don&#8217;t comment on the blog &#8211; they simply add the product or company to their &#8220;I will never buy from&#8230;..&#8221; list. </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t please everybody. Chances are you&#8217;re going to tick someone off.  So look at who your core audience is. They&#8217;re the only opinion that matters.  But do listen to their opinions.</p>
<p>Thanks to every single one of your for your great comments and interesting discussions.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Gorell</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-202480</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Gorell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa,

Looks like the video embedding was broken when you first saw the post, so thanks for bringing that to our attention.  It&#039;s fixed now.

Anyway, it seems a lot of folks who didn&#039;t like the commercial weren&#039;t &quot;offended&quot; per se; they&#039;re just questioning how effective it will be.  One of Geico&#039;s advantages lately is that they&#039;re now an established brand.  They can get away will being irrelevant and irreverent more often because people already know what they do.  Although the Zafu ad is clever, it&#039;s difficult to know what to glean what it is that the company does off of the ad alone.

But you&#039;re right.  It does a great job at piquing interest.  Should they switch directions and not do similar, follow-up ads?  I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s the answer, either.  Perhaps next time, though, it would be good to get a deeper sense of what the company has to offer women.  One knows it has something to do with bras, but that&#039;s about it.

At least an ad like this works better online than it would on TV.   If you&#039;re watching it online, it&#039;s easy enough to go to Zafu.com to see what they&#039;re all about. Personally, I think it would be possible for them to have it both ways -- i.e., show the benefits without leaving women with JUST the &quot;creepy guy&quot; imagery -- so I see Holly&#039;s article as a bit of tough love.  She&#039;s praising the service itself, while questioning the relevancy of the ad campaign.

Either way, I think we&#039;re all looking forward to what Rob and the rest of the Zafu team does next.

(By the way... More analysis of Geico in another post VERY soon.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa,</p>
<p>Looks like the video embedding was broken when you first saw the post, so thanks for bringing that to our attention.  It&#8217;s fixed now.</p>
<p>Anyway, it seems a lot of folks who didn&#8217;t like the commercial weren&#8217;t &#8220;offended&#8221; per se; they&#8217;re just questioning how effective it will be.  One of Geico&#8217;s advantages lately is that they&#8217;re now an established brand.  They can get away will being irrelevant and irreverent more often because people already know what they do.  Although the Zafu ad is clever, it&#8217;s difficult to know what to glean what it is that the company does off of the ad alone.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re right.  It does a great job at piquing interest.  Should they switch directions and not do similar, follow-up ads?  I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s the answer, either.  Perhaps next time, though, it would be good to get a deeper sense of what the company has to offer women.  One knows it has something to do with bras, but that&#8217;s about it.</p>
<p>At least an ad like this works better online than it would on TV.   If you&#8217;re watching it online, it&#8217;s easy enough to go to Zafu.com to see what they&#8217;re all about. Personally, I think it would be possible for them to have it both ways &#8212; i.e., show the benefits without leaving women with JUST the &#8220;creepy guy&#8221; imagery &#8212; so I see Holly&#8217;s article as a bit of tough love.  She&#8217;s praising the service itself, while questioning the relevancy of the ad campaign.</p>
<p>Either way, I think we&#8217;re all looking forward to what Rob and the rest of the Zafu team does next.</p>
<p>(By the way&#8230; More analysis of Geico in another post VERY soon.)</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-202406</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I had seen the video before reading your blog entry instead of vice versa, because it was hard to view the video objectively after already having read a lot of opinions on it. 

I did think it was pretty darn funny and memorable. It piqued my interest to check out the site and see what it&#039;s about. I&#039;m actually a little shocked that people really do get offended by this stuff. I can see zafu doing a series of follow up spoofs, kind of like what Geico does with the caveman storyline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I had seen the video before reading your blog entry instead of vice versa, because it was hard to view the video objectively after already having read a lot of opinions on it. </p>
<p>I did think it was pretty darn funny and memorable. It piqued my interest to check out the site and see what it&#8217;s about. I&#8217;m actually a little shocked that people really do get offended by this stuff. I can see zafu doing a series of follow up spoofs, kind of like what Geico does with the caveman storyline.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-184781</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still find it refreshing when a company is willing to take some chances and try some different techniques. Kudos.

The fact that it isn&#039;t an actual television commercial and instead seems to be aimed at the &#039;YouTube&#039; audience is somthing that I think we should keep in mind when critiquing such things. The YouTube standards are so different.

However, I wonder how many potential customers may be turned off by the spot not believing that this company is respectful of what they may want or need or how they feel about their bodies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still find it refreshing when a company is willing to take some chances and try some different techniques. Kudos.</p>
<p>The fact that it isn&#8217;t an actual television commercial and instead seems to be aimed at the &#8216;YouTube&#8217; audience is somthing that I think we should keep in mind when critiquing such things. The YouTube standards are so different.</p>
<p>However, I wonder how many potential customers may be turned off by the spot not believing that this company is respectful of what they may want or need or how they feel about their bodies.</p>
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		<title>By: BetaCandy</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-180154</link>
		<dc:creator>BetaCandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely don&#039;t find it offensive. And it&#039;s slightly funny. But I don&#039;t get why the guy&#039;s geeky. Far more creepy would be some sleazoid who&#039;s perfectly comfortable asking a strange woman questions about her breasts.

I think it could&#039;ve been funnier if it happened in a bar, too, because expecting women in a bar to react well to &quot;Excuse me, but can I ask you for details about your breasts?&quot; is even more absurd than expecting it of a woman in a parking lot. But then I like absurdist humor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely don&#8217;t find it offensive. And it&#8217;s slightly funny. But I don&#8217;t get why the guy&#8217;s geeky. Far more creepy would be some sleazoid who&#8217;s perfectly comfortable asking a strange woman questions about her breasts.</p>
<p>I think it could&#8217;ve been funnier if it happened in a bar, too, because expecting women in a bar to react well to &#8220;Excuse me, but can I ask you for details about your breasts?&#8221; is even more absurd than expecting it of a woman in a parking lot. But then I like absurdist humor.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Holloway</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-178200</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Holloway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kraig,
You&#039;re too funny
Keeping abreast and the booby trap indeed
Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kraig,<br />
You&#8217;re too funny<br />
Keeping abreast and the booby trap indeed<br />
Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Kraig Krieger</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-176874</link>
		<dc:creator>Kraig Krieger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rob,
Im sure that the team from &#039;Monty Python&#039; would have gotten a good giggle from the ad.
I will be sticking it on my site over the next week.
I happen to think that it was quite titillating, and keeping quite abreast of the other bra ads out there.
Is it true that Zafu are creating a new bra named the &#039;booby-trap&#039; ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rob,<br />
Im sure that the team from &#8216;Monty Python&#8217; would have gotten a good giggle from the ad.<br />
I will be sticking it on my site over the next week.<br />
I happen to think that it was quite titillating, and keeping quite abreast of the other bra ads out there.<br />
Is it true that Zafu are creating a new bra named the &#8216;booby-trap&#8217; ?</p>
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		<title>By: Fashion Marketing: Find better fitting bras online with Playtex and Zafu</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-174988</link>
		<dc:creator>Fashion Marketing: Find better fitting bras online with Playtex and Zafu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has a very interesting analysis of the Zafu campaign, with its pros and its cons (Would You Buy a Bra From This Man?). Reader comments are also good to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rob Holloway</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-174249</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Holloway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Laura,

No problem at all.

The &quot;poor geeky boy&quot; is alive and well and living close by. No problem at all with your comments. We avoided using blood and tryed to make it look like some of those old science fiction films where it was obviously a guy in a fake suit. Most people I&#039;ve seen viewing it, laugh at it.

Now we&#039;re being asked for more bra scientist movies!!

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Laura,</p>
<p>No problem at all.</p>
<p>The &#8220;poor geeky boy&#8221; is alive and well and living close by. No problem at all with your comments. We avoided using blood and tryed to make it look like some of those old science fiction films where it was obviously a guy in a fake suit. Most people I&#8217;ve seen viewing it, laugh at it.</p>
<p>Now we&#8217;re being asked for more bra scientist movies!!</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Medley</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-174243</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Medley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Didn&#039;t mean to come off so harsh about the violence - my bad... but if you wandered around YouTube a bit, you see what I&#039;m talking about. And thank god about his head, I was worried about that poor geeky boy ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Didn&#8217;t mean to come off so harsh about the violence &#8211; my bad&#8230; but if you wandered around YouTube a bit, you see what I&#8217;m talking about. And thank god about his head, I was worried about that poor geeky boy <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rob Holloway</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-174238</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Holloway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kim

I gave up on age years ago as I have friends in their thirties who seem to have one foot in the grave and I know people in their sixties and seventies at our climbing gym who put most to shame. 

Our team spans from the early twenties through to me. 

Rob

PS - he didn&#039;t really get his head kicked off :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kim</p>
<p>I gave up on age years ago as I have friends in their thirties who seem to have one foot in the grave and I know people in their sixties and seventies at our climbing gym who put most to shame. </p>
<p>Our team spans from the early twenties through to me. </p>
<p>Rob</p>
<p>PS &#8211; he didn&#8217;t really get his head kicked off <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kim Krause Berg</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-174224</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Krause Berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rob,

  The first thing I did when you suggested to check the Bio&#039;s was to look for their ages, because ever since I got ripped up for standing up against the violent act of kicking a man&#039;s head off, I&#039;ve felt very, very old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rob,</p>
<p>  The first thing I did when you suggested to check the Bio&#8217;s was to look for their ages, because ever since I got ripped up for standing up against the violent act of kicking a man&#8217;s head off, I&#8217;ve felt very, very old.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Holloway</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-174202</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Holloway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Holly,

On reflection I&#039;d agree that we may have strayed too far away from communicating benefits, but I&#039;m not sure how we&#039;d incorprate it in a viral piece without seeming to be preaching. I&#039;m sure your readers will have their own ideas :-). Our goal was to intrigue in a light hearted way. This is a fine balancing act. 

Regarding feedback. It&#039;s been overwhelmingly positive with a few &quot;offended&quot; responses. My experience is that in general people that are disliking something are always more vocal.

Gender of a team - hmm - interesting thought, but seriously our &quot;creative&quot; team is predoninatly women - see our bios page.

Your site is really very good, so congrats to you on that!

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Holly,</p>
<p>On reflection I&#8217;d agree that we may have strayed too far away from communicating benefits, but I&#8217;m not sure how we&#8217;d incorprate it in a viral piece without seeming to be preaching. I&#8217;m sure your readers will have their own ideas <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Our goal was to intrigue in a light hearted way. This is a fine balancing act. </p>
<p>Regarding feedback. It&#8217;s been overwhelmingly positive with a few &#8220;offended&#8221; responses. My experience is that in general people that are disliking something are always more vocal.</p>
<p>Gender of a team &#8211; hmm &#8211; interesting thought, but seriously our &#8220;creative&#8221; team is predoninatly women &#8211; see our bios page.</p>
<p>Your site is really very good, so congrats to you on that!</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Holly Buchanan</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-174125</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rob,

Thanks so much for joining the disucssion!  I was hoping someone from Zafu would stop by.

You are in nice position - you actually have a product women find valuable.   (too often companies try to save a mediocre product with marketing - you are meeting a true need and providing an obviously valuable service)

Yes, many &quot;viral efforts&quot; are polarizing.   My only concern is that the majority of your target audience is on the positive side.  Dove&#039;s campaign for real beauty really brought out the critics.  A lot of people really hated it.  But women sick of size &quot;0&quot; models loved it.   It was their opinion that counted.   

On your home page - I think the problem may be more that women don&#039;t equate buying jeans with buying a bra.  (I wouldn&#039;t buy my jeans the same place I buy my lingerie) I understand there is a similar &quot;fitting&quot; issue, but in the minds of many women - they are two unrelated items.  So when you see the most prevelant images - which are jeans, you thinkn &quot;oops, wrong place&quot;  

I couldn&#039;t agree with you more on the mistake of trying to communicate too much in an ad.  It is instant death if you have too many messages crammed into your ad. Simple and focused is the secret to success.  I think the video does a great job of that. But a common thread in the comments is that they did not understand the real benefit you are offering.  If they did, they may not have been as offended and would have actually clicked through to the site.  

You offer a great service.   But from the video - the real value of the service isn&#039;t obvious to someone who has never heard of you.   (it&#039;s also not a service a lot of others are providing - which is great for you - but the audience might neet a little more education on it - even just one more slide with a sentence explaining the benefit could have been enough to do the trick)

Thanks for your input.  I wish you much luck at Zafu.

P.S.  one of the questions I&#039;ve received is &quot;what was the gender of the creative team&quot; - could you share that with our readers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rob,</p>
<p>Thanks so much for joining the disucssion!  I was hoping someone from Zafu would stop by.</p>
<p>You are in nice position &#8211; you actually have a product women find valuable.   (too often companies try to save a mediocre product with marketing &#8211; you are meeting a true need and providing an obviously valuable service)</p>
<p>Yes, many &#8220;viral efforts&#8221; are polarizing.   My only concern is that the majority of your target audience is on the positive side.  Dove&#8217;s campaign for real beauty really brought out the critics.  A lot of people really hated it.  But women sick of size &#8220;0&#8243; models loved it.   It was their opinion that counted.   </p>
<p>On your home page &#8211; I think the problem may be more that women don&#8217;t equate buying jeans with buying a bra.  (I wouldn&#8217;t buy my jeans the same place I buy my lingerie) I understand there is a similar &#8220;fitting&#8221; issue, but in the minds of many women &#8211; they are two unrelated items.  So when you see the most prevelant images &#8211; which are jeans, you thinkn &#8220;oops, wrong place&#8221;  </p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more on the mistake of trying to communicate too much in an ad.  It is instant death if you have too many messages crammed into your ad. Simple and focused is the secret to success.  I think the video does a great job of that. But a common thread in the comments is that they did not understand the real benefit you are offering.  If they did, they may not have been as offended and would have actually clicked through to the site.  </p>
<p>You offer a great service.   But from the video &#8211; the real value of the service isn&#8217;t obvious to someone who has never heard of you.   (it&#8217;s also not a service a lot of others are providing &#8211; which is great for you &#8211; but the audience might neet a little more education on it &#8211; even just one more slide with a sentence explaining the benefit could have been enough to do the trick)</p>
<p>Thanks for your input.  I wish you much luck at Zafu.</p>
<p>P.S.  one of the questions I&#8217;ve received is &#8220;what was the gender of the creative team&#8221; &#8211; could you share that with our readers?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Holloway</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-174060</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Holloway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly,

Great article - it&#039;s rare to see such thoughful and insightful analysis on the internet. You make a bunch of really good points.

Full disclosure - I work for zafu and this is our first entre into the world of viral marketing and videos.

It&#039;s interesting how people react to videos and the feedback we get. My experience is that feedback online tends to polarize. People either like what they see alot or simply hate it. I&#039;ve seen this on all types of executions in all media all across the world. As you rightly point out, different segments of the population will also react to marketing in different ways. This is part of the fun of trying to get it right.

We&#039;ve had 2 million women come to zafu since we launched and there&#039;s no doubt that the service itself works extremely well. I was surprised by the comments about people not seeing bras as there are pictures and no less than 3 references on our home page alone. Our UI testing certainly tells a different story.

We took the view that doing an explanation video was not going to be much fun for anyone in this media. In addition, one of the biggest mistakes companies make is trying to communicate too much in each ad.

So once again, thnaks for the feedback. 
Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly,</p>
<p>Great article &#8211; it&#8217;s rare to see such thoughful and insightful analysis on the internet. You make a bunch of really good points.</p>
<p>Full disclosure &#8211; I work for zafu and this is our first entre into the world of viral marketing and videos.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting how people react to videos and the feedback we get. My experience is that feedback online tends to polarize. People either like what they see alot or simply hate it. I&#8217;ve seen this on all types of executions in all media all across the world. As you rightly point out, different segments of the population will also react to marketing in different ways. This is part of the fun of trying to get it right.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve had 2 million women come to zafu since we launched and there&#8217;s no doubt that the service itself works extremely well. I was surprised by the comments about people not seeing bras as there are pictures and no less than 3 references on our home page alone. Our UI testing certainly tells a different story.</p>
<p>We took the view that doing an explanation video was not going to be much fun for anyone in this media. In addition, one of the biggest mistakes companies make is trying to communicate too much in each ad.</p>
<p>So once again, thnaks for the feedback.<br />
Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Holly Buchanan</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/08/31/would-you-buy-a-bra-from-this-man/comment-page-1/#comment-174019</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fabulous feedback.   

I often laugh when marketers talk about &quot;targeting women&quot; - it&#039;s as if they believe &quot;women&quot; all think and act alike.  Nothing could be further from the truth.   

You can see from the above comments that there are widely varying responses to the video. When it comes to women&#039;s reactions to advertising, never make assumptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fabulous feedback.   </p>
<p>I often laugh when marketers talk about &#8220;targeting women&#8221; &#8211; it&#8217;s as if they believe &#8220;women&#8221; all think and act alike.  Nothing could be further from the truth.   </p>
<p>You can see from the above comments that there are widely varying responses to the video. When it comes to women&#8217;s reactions to advertising, never make assumptions.</p>
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