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	<title>Comments on: Unlocking Key Performance Indicators: Order Acquisition Ratio</title>
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		<title>By: Mike's Recording Studio</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/10/30/order-acquisition-ratio/comment-page-1/#comment-1193575</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's Recording Studio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like many people forget that it isn&#039;t about how many visitors we can get to our website, but how much &quot;relevant&quot; traffic we can bring.  5000 irrelevant visitors to a website is useless.  I would rather get 30 relevant visitors to a website, than 5000 irrelevant visitors, because those 30 relevant visitors can convert into sales much, much higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like many people forget that it isn&#8217;t about how many visitors we can get to our website, but how much &#8220;relevant&#8221; traffic we can bring.  5000 irrelevant visitors to a website is useless.  I would rather get 30 relevant visitors to a website, than 5000 irrelevant visitors, because those 30 relevant visitors can convert into sales much, much higher.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Patiro</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/10/30/order-acquisition-ratio/comment-page-1/#comment-324464</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Patiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon,

If you want to know why they may be abandoning on Paypal&#039;s site, go through Paypal&#039;s process and take notes on all the possible reasons someone would leave.  You may be able to address some of the problems on your site before they get to Paypal by making sure they don&#039;t have any unanswered questions. Examples - return policy, shipping costs, gift wrapping, etc.

I referred to &quot;event tracking&quot; as a way to measure how many people click on a specific link, in your case the Paypal button on a page.  This will be able to measure how many people are going to Paypal, but once they are on Paypal&#039;s site you will not be able to know what they do there.

Good luck to you Simon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon,</p>
<p>If you want to know why they may be abandoning on Paypal&#8217;s site, go through Paypal&#8217;s process and take notes on all the possible reasons someone would leave.  You may be able to address some of the problems on your site before they get to Paypal by making sure they don&#8217;t have any unanswered questions. Examples &#8211; return policy, shipping costs, gift wrapping, etc.</p>
<p>I referred to &#8220;event tracking&#8221; as a way to measure how many people click on a specific link, in your case the Paypal button on a page.  This will be able to measure how many people are going to Paypal, but once they are on Paypal&#8217;s site you will not be able to know what they do there.</p>
<p>Good luck to you Simon.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/10/30/order-acquisition-ratio/comment-page-1/#comment-324439</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ron,

Thanks for your reply.

Do you mean the add to cart button on our site ? 
I think you are saying that this will tell me how many people add something to their cart, and I then deduct this # from my total # of sales to get the abandonment rate. Is that right ?

The problem with this is I have no way of finding out why they abandoned the cart if I cannot track the four or five steps in the 3rd party PayPal checkout. Is there a way round this ?

Thanks
Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ron,</p>
<p>Thanks for your reply.</p>
<p>Do you mean the add to cart button on our site ?<br />
I think you are saying that this will tell me how many people add something to their cart, and I then deduct this # from my total # of sales to get the abandonment rate. Is that right ?</p>
<p>The problem with this is I have no way of finding out why they abandoned the cart if I cannot track the four or five steps in the 3rd party PayPal checkout. Is there a way round this ?</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Simon</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Patiro</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/10/30/order-acquisition-ratio/comment-page-1/#comment-324293</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Patiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon,

Google recently created the ability to track &quot;events&quot; on a given page.  In your case you would make the click of your Paypal button the event you want to track.  Good luck to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon,</p>
<p>Google recently created the ability to track &#8220;events&#8221; on a given page.  In your case you would make the click of your Paypal button the event you want to track.  Good luck to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/10/30/order-acquisition-ratio/comment-page-1/#comment-323282</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I am trying to set up a goal funnel in Google Analytics. The problem I am having is my checkout is done through PayPal and my web developers are telling me that the Google Analytics code cannot
be placed on the PayPal pages. Is this correct ? If so, how the heck am I supposed to work out my cart abandonment rate ?
Can anyone help ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I am trying to set up a goal funnel in Google Analytics. The problem I am having is my checkout is done through PayPal and my web developers are telling me that the Google Analytics code cannot<br />
be placed on the PayPal pages. Is this correct ? If so, how the heck am I supposed to work out my cart abandonment rate ?<br />
Can anyone help ?</p>
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		<title>By: Measuring Visitor Engagement: Tools + Tips</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/10/30/order-acquisition-ratio/comment-page-1/#comment-320752</link>
		<dc:creator>Measuring Visitor Engagement: Tools + Tips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 04:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Order Acquisition Ratio = (Marketing Expense/Number of Orders) / (Marketing Expense/Visits) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Order Acquisition Ratio = (Marketing Expense/Number of Orders) / (Marketing Expense/Visits) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Eisenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/10/30/order-acquisition-ratio/comment-page-1/#comment-303048</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Eisenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tara,

Great questions! There are no published benchmarks for this metric.  If you order acquisition gap is negative then you better have a long life time value for that customer, because one order does not make up the amount you paid to drive them to your site. As far a if it should be unique or just visits; depends on your organization and the rest of your metrics. You should be consistent across all metrics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tara,</p>
<p>Great questions! There are no published benchmarks for this metric.  If you order acquisition gap is negative then you better have a long life time value for that customer, because one order does not make up the amount you paid to drive them to your site. As far a if it should be unique or just visits; depends on your organization and the rest of your metrics. You should be consistent across all metrics.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara Verner</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/10/30/order-acquisition-ratio/comment-page-1/#comment-299721</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara Verner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have any metrics for what are ranges of these metrics by industry. E.g., what&#039;s a good order acquisition gap; and what does it mean if you have an order acquisition gap that&#039;s negative. should this be on unique visitors or visits? etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have any metrics for what are ranges of these metrics by industry. E.g., what&#8217;s a good order acquisition gap; and what does it mean if you have an order acquisition gap that&#8217;s negative. should this be on unique visitors or visits? etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Patiro</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/10/30/order-acquisition-ratio/comment-page-1/#comment-298840</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Patiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,

Improving conversion rate does indeed improve this metric as they are mathematically inverse.  However, taking that one shortcut while explaining this ratio would have ignored our marketing expenses.  We don&#039;t want to take the money out of our explanation because it gives us other useful metrics like Cost per Order and Cost per Visitor with which other metrics like Order Acquisition Gap can be calculated.  Thank you for reading and commenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>Improving conversion rate does indeed improve this metric as they are mathematically inverse.  However, taking that one shortcut while explaining this ratio would have ignored our marketing expenses.  We don&#8217;t want to take the money out of our explanation because it gives us other useful metrics like Cost per Order and Cost per Visitor with which other metrics like Order Acquisition Gap can be calculated.  Thank you for reading and commenting.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Hillstrom</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/10/30/order-acquisition-ratio/comment-page-1/#comment-298749</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Hillstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mathematically, this equation simplifies down to the inverse of conversion rate.

In other words, if you have a 4% conversion rate, you have a 25 OAR (1/0.04), correct?

Mathematically, you have marketing expense in the numerator and denominator of your equation.  By default, marketing expense cancels out, leaving you with the inverse of conversion rate.

So by default, improving conversion rate improves this metric!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mathematically, this equation simplifies down to the inverse of conversion rate.</p>
<p>In other words, if you have a 4% conversion rate, you have a 25 OAR (1/0.04), correct?</p>
<p>Mathematically, you have marketing expense in the numerator and denominator of your equation.  By default, marketing expense cancels out, leaving you with the inverse of conversion rate.</p>
<p>So by default, improving conversion rate improves this metric!</p>
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		<title>By: Aurelius Tjin</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/10/30/order-acquisition-ratio/comment-page-1/#comment-287741</link>
		<dc:creator>Aurelius Tjin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good web analytics program for your site can really work wonders for your site. Its one important field you must master and give consideration to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good web analytics program for your site can really work wonders for your site. Its one important field you must master and give consideration to.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Patiro</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/10/30/order-acquisition-ratio/comment-page-1/#comment-286837</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Patiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon,

I strongly recommend investing time into gaining an understanding of how to analyze your site or working with someone who does.  Here is a great place for you to start educating yourself in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/support/analytics/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;understanding Google Analytics&lt;/a&gt;.  

Best of luck to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon,</p>
<p>I strongly recommend investing time into gaining an understanding of how to analyze your site or working with someone who does.  Here is a great place for you to start educating yourself in <a href="http://www.google.com/support/analytics/">understanding Google Analytics</a>.  </p>
<p>Best of luck to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/10/30/order-acquisition-ratio/comment-page-1/#comment-286818</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your reply Ron. I have added Google Analytics a month ago and am perhaps still a novice using it, but maybe you can explain how I can track where an on line sale came from (eg: an organic search or blog or link from another site ).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your reply Ron. I have added Google Analytics a month ago and am perhaps still a novice using it, but maybe you can explain how I can track where an on line sale came from (eg: an organic search or blog or link from another site ).</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Patiro</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/10/30/order-acquisition-ratio/comment-page-1/#comment-286554</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Patiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon,

Web Analytics programs allow you to segment your traffic by the sources that deliver it.  You should make sure that you have an analytics program running on your site.  You can always use Google Analytics it’s free, or use a paid service like Omniture.  

If you are talking about tracking offline marketing efforts then you may have to implement a question on your site or make assumptions based on short term questionnaires to find out where your visitors are originating from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon,</p>
<p>Web Analytics programs allow you to segment your traffic by the sources that deliver it.  You should make sure that you have an analytics program running on your site.  You can always use Google Analytics it’s free, or use a paid service like Omniture.  </p>
<p>If you are talking about tracking offline marketing efforts then you may have to implement a question on your site or make assumptions based on short term questionnaires to find out where your visitors are originating from.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/10/30/order-acquisition-ratio/comment-page-1/#comment-286479</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ronald,
Good article. I have a question though. If you have many sources of visitors to your site, how can you tell where the sale originated from unless you ask every  customer ?  it is hard to know where your marketing dollars are working best. I would appreciate your advice.
Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ronald,<br />
Good article. I have a question though. If you have many sources of visitors to your site, how can you tell where the sale originated from unless you ask every  customer ?  it is hard to know where your marketing dollars are working best. I would appreciate your advice.<br />
Simon</p>
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