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	<title>Comments on: Can I Please Have the &#8220;Mac Guy&#8221; Back?</title>
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		<title>By: Los Angeles DUI Lawyer</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/01/10/mac-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-1204627</link>
		<dc:creator>Los Angeles DUI Lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Segmented lists are for sure the way to go, I use them on a daily basis for my business&#039;s email campaigns.</description>
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		<title>By: Karina</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/01/10/mac-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-699413</link>
		<dc:creator>Karina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 15:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What two words are one of the most important parts of any e-mail marketing campaign and would have prevented this entire issue?  segmented list</description>
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		<title>By: Tim 'Gonzo' Gordon</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/01/10/mac-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-460903</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim 'Gonzo' Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a Mac guy - never have been - but I follow their marketing because I do find their products and marketing approach interesting, and probably pretty damn effective. Obviously they&#039;re doing something right with their hordes of rabid followers.

I work in a company that&#039;s got a design room full of various Macs; the designers seem to always be having some &#039;issue&#039; with them that is replaced by a new &#039;issue&#039; once the original one is resolved. And when I ask what it&#039;s about, the problems are usually more hairball-y (is that a word?) than any PC issues I&#039;ve run into over the past couple of years. In other words, to my mind a Mac is as problem-free as a typical PC. Or worse. Yikes.

Having said that, the whole PC guy vs. Mac advertising campaign just makes me want to turn the TV off, it&#039;s so annoying. 

And the whole &#039;techno-speak&#039; doesn&#039;t do much for me either, and here&#039;s why. I&#039;d love to get the fastest computer I can afford with the biggest RAM and loudest hard-drive, etc., but as far as the computing world has come in the past ten years the increase in numbers is really insignificant to any buying decision I would make. I already KNOW they&#039;re probably gonna kick a-- and be faster than my current set-up.

Having seen them up close, I just find Macs over priced and as full of problems as a PC. And don&#039;t get me started on the amount of software titles available for a Mac vs. a PC. So far none of the marketing I&#039;ve seen or the experience I&#039;ve had has convinced me that a Mac is worth twice what a PC is worth - which is about what they cost.

Last thought: I have a new PC with Windows Vista at my workplace and to me, it&#039;s about the same as my 4-year old home PC with XP - with one major difference: I can&#039;t record audio from the &#039;stereo mix&#039; on Vista like I can at home, so I doubt I&#039;ll want to upgrade there.

Oh yeah, it is a bit faster...a little bit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a Mac guy &#8211; never have been &#8211; but I follow their marketing because I do find their products and marketing approach interesting, and probably pretty damn effective. Obviously they&#8217;re doing something right with their hordes of rabid followers.</p>
<p>I work in a company that&#8217;s got a design room full of various Macs; the designers seem to always be having some &#8216;issue&#8217; with them that is replaced by a new &#8216;issue&#8217; once the original one is resolved. And when I ask what it&#8217;s about, the problems are usually more hairball-y (is that a word?) than any PC issues I&#8217;ve run into over the past couple of years. In other words, to my mind a Mac is as problem-free as a typical PC. Or worse. Yikes.</p>
<p>Having said that, the whole PC guy vs. Mac advertising campaign just makes me want to turn the TV off, it&#8217;s so annoying. </p>
<p>And the whole &#8216;techno-speak&#8217; doesn&#8217;t do much for me either, and here&#8217;s why. I&#8217;d love to get the fastest computer I can afford with the biggest RAM and loudest hard-drive, etc., but as far as the computing world has come in the past ten years the increase in numbers is really insignificant to any buying decision I would make. I already KNOW they&#8217;re probably gonna kick a&#8211; and be faster than my current set-up.</p>
<p>Having seen them up close, I just find Macs over priced and as full of problems as a PC. And don&#8217;t get me started on the amount of software titles available for a Mac vs. a PC. So far none of the marketing I&#8217;ve seen or the experience I&#8217;ve had has convinced me that a Mac is worth twice what a PC is worth &#8211; which is about what they cost.</p>
<p>Last thought: I have a new PC with Windows Vista at my workplace and to me, it&#8217;s about the same as my 4-year old home PC with XP &#8211; with one major difference: I can&#8217;t record audio from the &#8217;stereo mix&#8217; on Vista like I can at home, so I doubt I&#8217;ll want to upgrade there.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, it is a bit faster&#8230;a little bit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bloggers Digest - 1/18/08 - Get Elastic Ecommerce Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/01/10/mac-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-455019</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloggers Digest - 1/18/08 - Get Elastic Ecommerce Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Buchanan has an entertaining critique on a recent email from Apple Computer, from subject line to images and content. An apple with 8 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Holly Buchanan</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/01/10/mac-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-449309</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to hear from Apple about the &quot;hows and whys&quot; of this campaign.   

If I were not a marketer, I would not have opened that email based on the subject line.  It was just so &quot;un-apple&quot; like, that as a marketer, I clicked through to see what was up.

It could be that Apple did that on purpose  - used language specifically to discourage those who would not be interested in the product from clicking through.   I don&#039;t know.

What I find really interesting about some of the comments is why those who were interested in the product did click through - why that language did speak to them.  It seems there was something for the methodical, the competitive and the spontaneous.  Interesting insight.  I hope Apple is listening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to hear from Apple about the &#8220;hows and whys&#8221; of this campaign.   </p>
<p>If I were not a marketer, I would not have opened that email based on the subject line.  It was just so &#8220;un-apple&#8221; like, that as a marketer, I clicked through to see what was up.</p>
<p>It could be that Apple did that on purpose  &#8211; used language specifically to discourage those who would not be interested in the product from clicking through.   I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>What I find really interesting about some of the comments is why those who were interested in the product did click through &#8211; why that language did speak to them.  It seems there was something for the methodical, the competitive and the spontaneous.  Interesting insight.  I hope Apple is listening.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Rusk</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/01/10/mac-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-449251</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Rusk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom-- even with a simple, middle market email marketing tool, marketers are able to track and analyze data which can tell them who their customers are, and provide enough information to loosely divide them into targeted segments. Furthermore by building a preference center, Apple could enable customers/subscribers to choose areas/products of interest to them. Surely Apple has the budget and resources to do this properly and accurately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom&#8211; even with a simple, middle market email marketing tool, marketers are able to track and analyze data which can tell them who their customers are, and provide enough information to loosely divide them into targeted segments. Furthermore by building a preference center, Apple could enable customers/subscribers to choose areas/products of interest to them. Surely Apple has the budget and resources to do this properly and accurately.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/01/10/mac-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-449084</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;d just point out… and maybe I&#039;m stating the obvious here but… shouldn&#039;t apple know enough about holly as a customer… that they would avoid sending something like this to her in the first place? I mean… purchase history… profile on apple.com… something???&quot;

How?  Just because Apple has your e-mail address, doesn&#039;t mean you&#039;ve purchased from them.  It doesn&#039;t mean they have anything more than your e-mail address.    For the cost of sending the e-mail versus the profit made on each machine, it&#039;s probably a sensible choice to send the e-mail over not because they *might* not be a high-end user.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;d just point out… and maybe I&#8217;m stating the obvious here but… shouldn&#8217;t apple know enough about holly as a customer… that they would avoid sending something like this to her in the first place? I mean… purchase history… profile on apple.com… something???&#8221;</p>
<p>How?  Just because Apple has your e-mail address, doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;ve purchased from them.  It doesn&#8217;t mean they have anything more than your e-mail address.    For the cost of sending the e-mail versus the profit made on each machine, it&#8217;s probably a sensible choice to send the e-mail over not because they *might* not be a high-end user.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Rusk</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/01/10/mac-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-448985</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Rusk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to agree with Bill--I think Apple made the mistake of sending this particular email to Holly. Tom, Sayam, I see your point, but it doesn&#039;t change the fact that Apple sent a completely irrelevant email to Holly (and probably a lot of other customers for that matter) 

Irrelevant leads to confusion and disinterest(Holly + other). Given its size, and what I&#039;m sure is not a modest marketing budget at all, it shouldn&#039;t be hard for Apple to segment out those customers who would love this product, and leave out those who have no interest. It can still send this &#039;announcement&#039; to other customers, but word it differently, or have it as a secondary item in the email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to agree with Bill&#8211;I think Apple made the mistake of sending this particular email to Holly. Tom, Sayam, I see your point, but it doesn&#8217;t change the fact that Apple sent a completely irrelevant email to Holly (and probably a lot of other customers for that matter) </p>
<p>Irrelevant leads to confusion and disinterest(Holly + other). Given its size, and what I&#8217;m sure is not a modest marketing budget at all, it shouldn&#8217;t be hard for Apple to segment out those customers who would love this product, and leave out those who have no interest. It can still send this &#8216;announcement&#8217; to other customers, but word it differently, or have it as a secondary item in the email.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/01/10/mac-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-447451</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d just point out... and maybe I&#039;m stating the obvious here but... shouldn&#039;t apple know enough about holly as a customer... that they would avoid sending something like this to her in the first place?  I mean...  purchase history... profile on apple.com... something???   

It seems to me that this is more of a glaring targeting error FIRST.  Something as niche as an 8-core processor MAC really has no business in 75% of the inboxes on the planet.  Maybe more. 

I bet with targets like Holly in their file.. this email had &quot;less than stellar&quot; performance.   
Cheers,
.bb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d just point out&#8230; and maybe I&#8217;m stating the obvious here but&#8230; shouldn&#8217;t apple know enough about holly as a customer&#8230; that they would avoid sending something like this to her in the first place?  I mean&#8230;  purchase history&#8230; profile on apple.com&#8230; something???   </p>
<p>It seems to me that this is more of a glaring targeting error FIRST.  Something as niche as an 8-core processor MAC really has no business in 75% of the inboxes on the planet.  Maybe more. </p>
<p>I bet with targets like Holly in their file.. this email had &#8220;less than stellar&#8221; performance.<br />
Cheers,<br />
.bb</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Kinard</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/01/10/mac-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-447132</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff Kinard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am with Tom and Sayam.  My first reaction was to go to the site to make sure that MY MacPro wasn&#039;t obsolete already.

Your average user doesn&#039;t shell out the moola for a MacPro unless you NEED power or you are just a geek.

The message or and voice were right on for me but Holly should be spoken to by the &quot;MacGuy&quot;.  He is a little too whimpy for US but just right for my &quot;mother&quot; (who has a iMac).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with Tom and Sayam.  My first reaction was to go to the site to make sure that MY MacPro wasn&#8217;t obsolete already.</p>
<p>Your average user doesn&#8217;t shell out the moola for a MacPro unless you NEED power or you are just a geek.</p>
<p>The message or and voice were right on for me but Holly should be spoken to by the &#8220;MacGuy&#8221;.  He is a little too whimpy for US but just right for my &#8220;mother&#8221; (who has a iMac).</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/01/10/mac-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-443259</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to say just what Sayam said, because I am a Spontaneous and I am in the market for that exact product and I received that e-mail and went to their site.  Their main selling point was that you can configure it exactly as you want, so I do feel it was a good call to action being used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to say just what Sayam said, because I am a Spontaneous and I am in the market for that exact product and I received that e-mail and went to their site.  Their main selling point was that you can configure it exactly as you want, so I do feel it was a good call to action being used.</p>
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		<title>By: Sayam Khan</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/01/10/mac-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-440809</link>
		<dc:creator>Sayam Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys,

Holly is a mac fan and probably a customer too, so she&#039;s right! And her perspective is from a customer&#039;s.

Robert, I agree with various types of users you identified. I used the scientific community as an example.

Now, the thing that comes out is, was Holly the correct target to receive the email?

Should apple have done a more generic and less techie email to intro this product?

I&#039;d be curious to see how they could appeal to various temperaments in the same piece. In my experience, attempting to appeal to all dilutes the effect, especially in an email, where the attention span is shorter.

Perhaps a marketer from Apple is reading this conversation and would be willing to chime in...

Cheers,
-SK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys,</p>
<p>Holly is a mac fan and probably a customer too, so she&#8217;s right! And her perspective is from a customer&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Robert, I agree with various types of users you identified. I used the scientific community as an example.</p>
<p>Now, the thing that comes out is, was Holly the correct target to receive the email?</p>
<p>Should apple have done a more generic and less techie email to intro this product?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be curious to see how they could appeal to various temperaments in the same piece. In my experience, attempting to appeal to all dilutes the effect, especially in an email, where the attention span is shorter.</p>
<p>Perhaps a marketer from Apple is reading this conversation and would be willing to chime in&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
-SK</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa Burdon</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/01/10/mac-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-440797</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa Burdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly,

I think you point out something important here. Whether or not they were trying to reach the more &#039;high end techies&#039;, they are still missing out on speaking to the different personalty types. After all, the world of &#039;high-end techies&#039; will include various personalty types (even though they might primarily be methodicals).

When an email campaign, pay-per-click campaign or banner ad is created, are you only speaking to one personality type? You can appeal to various types within a single piece of marketing. 

When I tell a client to write a specific page that speaks to the Competitive and Methodical, they always come back asking how they can write for the different types on one single page. Persuasion Architecture helps them accomplish this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly,</p>
<p>I think you point out something important here. Whether or not they were trying to reach the more &#8216;high end techies&#8217;, they are still missing out on speaking to the different personalty types. After all, the world of &#8216;high-end techies&#8217; will include various personalty types (even though they might primarily be methodicals).</p>
<p>When an email campaign, pay-per-click campaign or banner ad is created, are you only speaking to one personality type? You can appeal to various types within a single piece of marketing. </p>
<p>When I tell a client to write a specific page that speaks to the Competitive and Methodical, they always come back asking how they can write for the different types on one single page. Persuasion Architecture helps them accomplish this.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Gorell</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/01/10/mac-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-440787</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Gorell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sayam,

To say that Holly&#039;s not the archetype -- or &quot;persona,&quot; as it were -- is an understatement. (We love ya, Holly, but you &amp; high-end technology? Not so much... ;) ) Still, I think she makes a point in terms of this scenario (email-to-landing-page) being too heavily geared toward people in Methodical mode.

Personally, I think this is the type of machine that makes certain arty Humanistic types (like me, but different) switch into Methodical mode -- fast. Do they want to &quot;configure&quot; something? I&#039;m not sure, but it&#039;s worth us thinking about critically.

So (in that spirit) I don&#039;t think it&#039;s mostly &quot;scientific computing users&quot; who&#039;ll be drooling over the new Mac Pro. From what I&#039;ve seen with every Mac Pro release is that it&#039;s Web/industrial designers, Web developers, filmmakers/editors, and music producers who are going to the landing page right now to price out their dream box, regardless of whether they&#039;ll ever end up buying it. Those are the people who are using RAM-draining Audio/Video applications, and they&#039;re the ones who want ridiculous amounts of built-in storage capacity.

You&#039;re right, though; this computer isn&#039;t meant for most of us mortals living in the year 2008. Still, somewhere, at this exact moment, some film editor is looking at this landing page and wondering how much he can inflate the budget on his next project in order to score one. Meanwhile, there&#039;s a hacker custom PC fanatic whose arguing in a message board forum about how &quot;ghey&quot; (their word) this computer is and how they could build a liquid-cooled, terabyte-crunching beast that would destroy the Mac Pro in some sort of imaginary montage from the movie Tron.

So... (and sorry this is a bit elliptical) I think there should be some more benefit-oriented language snuck in there, and earlier on. This is all specs and no mojo until you get further down the page.

Regardless, Apple&#039;s done the hardest part: They&#039;ve made an amazing product that&#039;s sure to inspire geeks and gawkers, and should help sell some lower-end products in the meantime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sayam,</p>
<p>To say that Holly&#8217;s not the archetype &#8212; or &#8220;persona,&#8221; as it were &#8212; is an understatement. (We love ya, Holly, but you &#038; high-end technology? Not so much&#8230; <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) Still, I think she makes a point in terms of this scenario (email-to-landing-page) being too heavily geared toward people in Methodical mode.</p>
<p>Personally, I think this is the type of machine that makes certain arty Humanistic types (like me, but different) switch into Methodical mode &#8212; fast. Do they want to &#8220;configure&#8221; something? I&#8217;m not sure, but it&#8217;s worth us thinking about critically.</p>
<p>So (in that spirit) I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s mostly &#8220;scientific computing users&#8221; who&#8217;ll be drooling over the new Mac Pro. From what I&#8217;ve seen with every Mac Pro release is that it&#8217;s Web/industrial designers, Web developers, filmmakers/editors, and music producers who are going to the landing page right now to price out their dream box, regardless of whether they&#8217;ll ever end up buying it. Those are the people who are using RAM-draining Audio/Video applications, and they&#8217;re the ones who want ridiculous amounts of built-in storage capacity.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, though; this computer isn&#8217;t meant for most of us mortals living in the year 2008. Still, somewhere, at this exact moment, some film editor is looking at this landing page and wondering how much he can inflate the budget on his next project in order to score one. Meanwhile, there&#8217;s a hacker custom PC fanatic whose arguing in a message board forum about how &#8220;ghey&#8221; (their word) this computer is and how they could build a liquid-cooled, terabyte-crunching beast that would destroy the Mac Pro in some sort of imaginary montage from the movie Tron.</p>
<p>So&#8230; (and sorry this is a bit elliptical) I think there should be some more benefit-oriented language snuck in there, and earlier on. This is all specs and no mojo until you get further down the page.</p>
<p>Regardless, Apple&#8217;s done the hardest part: They&#8217;ve made an amazing product that&#8217;s sure to inspire geeks and gawkers, and should help sell some lower-end products in the meantime.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly Buchanan</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/01/10/mac-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-438758</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sayam,

I have to laugh a little.  My editor Robert called me out on the exact same point you just did when he was editing the post.

Yes - this is probably not aimed at me or many of Apple&#039;s other humanistic customers.  You are absolutely right about that.

As I pointed out - I think they do a good job with methodicals, or as you put it - more &quot;high-end scientiific users.&quot;

But it&#039;s still Apple - not Dell.  I think they can still talk to the computer geeks, but maintain their Apple &quot;voice.&quot;    They do have some great copy for the more &quot;logical&quot; type - but it&#039;s buried.   

By moving some of that copy higher up and perhaps having it in the email subject line - they could still be speaking to the &quot;high-end scientific&quot; community, but doing it in Apple&#039;s voice.  

I&#039;m sure Robert will appreciate you proving him right :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sayam,</p>
<p>I have to laugh a little.  My editor Robert called me out on the exact same point you just did when he was editing the post.</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; this is probably not aimed at me or many of Apple&#8217;s other humanistic customers.  You are absolutely right about that.</p>
<p>As I pointed out &#8211; I think they do a good job with methodicals, or as you put it &#8211; more &#8220;high-end scientiific users.&#8221;</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s still Apple &#8211; not Dell.  I think they can still talk to the computer geeks, but maintain their Apple &#8220;voice.&#8221;    They do have some great copy for the more &#8220;logical&#8221; type &#8211; but it&#8217;s buried.   </p>
<p>By moving some of that copy higher up and perhaps having it in the email subject line &#8211; they could still be speaking to the &#8220;high-end scientific&#8221; community, but doing it in Apple&#8217;s voice.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Robert will appreciate you proving him right <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sayam Khan</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/01/10/mac-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-438585</link>
		<dc:creator>Sayam Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Holly,

I enjoy reading your posts on a regular basis. I&#039;m not sure I agree with the premise behind your assessment above.

First, this is a new product release so even in the email they might be trying to &quot;unleash&quot; the exposure to the CPU by using an image only. You see nothing. You download the image. Voila!

Second, I feel that Apple&#039;s scenario was never designed for your archetype to begin with. You and I and other known mortals probably don&#039;t have the need for an 8-core CPU! Folks who are going to slap out their wallets for this product are high-end scientific computing users. To them, &quot;Configure&quot; is a perfect call to action. After all, you can&#039;t say &quot;Stylize Now!&quot; to the scientific community. Also note that the Call to action for MacBook on apple.com says &quot;Select&quot;.

But if I were a marketer for Apple, I would still duly note how the announcement made you feel....

Cheers,
-SK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Holly,</p>
<p>I enjoy reading your posts on a regular basis. I&#8217;m not sure I agree with the premise behind your assessment above.</p>
<p>First, this is a new product release so even in the email they might be trying to &#8220;unleash&#8221; the exposure to the CPU by using an image only. You see nothing. You download the image. Voila!</p>
<p>Second, I feel that Apple&#8217;s scenario was never designed for your archetype to begin with. You and I and other known mortals probably don&#8217;t have the need for an 8-core CPU! Folks who are going to slap out their wallets for this product are high-end scientific computing users. To them, &#8220;Configure&#8221; is a perfect call to action. After all, you can&#8217;t say &#8220;Stylize Now!&#8221; to the scientific community. Also note that the Call to action for MacBook on apple.com says &#8220;Select&#8221;.</p>
<p>But if I were a marketer for Apple, I would still duly note how the announcement made you feel&#8230;.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
-SK</p>
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