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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/21/best-404-error/comment-page-1/#comment-948162</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heinz I&#039;m surprised you haven&#039;t suggested Heinz.com/404 its a nice one.

www.Heinz.com/404</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heinz I&#8217;m surprised you haven&#8217;t suggested Heinz.com/404 its a nice one.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.Heinz.com/404">http://www.Heinz.com/404</a></p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/21/best-404-error/comment-page-1/#comment-596919</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 02:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have received positive comments from visitors about our 404 http://www.pragmaticmarketing.com/404. Not sure that getting comments about your 404 is a good thing (people like it) or a bad thing (they are seeing it too many times!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have received positive comments from visitors about our 404 <a href="http://www.pragmaticmarketing.com/404">http://www.pragmaticmarketing.com/404</a>. Not sure that getting comments about your 404 is a good thing (people like it) or a bad thing (they are seeing it too many times!).</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Gorell</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/21/best-404-error/comment-page-1/#comment-544196</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Gorell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean: Yours demonstrates a simpler approach, and I think it&#039;s perfect for your needs. I definitely agree that the line between &quot;creative&quot; and scaring off customers is thin. In this case, I doubt anyone who&#039;s familiar with the magazine&#039;s brand would be scared away. Perhaps I&#039;m wrong, but I&#039;m glad you made that point that creativity for its own sake isn&#039;t a good idea.

Rebeca: Speaking of creativity-for-its-own-sake, I really liked &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bluedaniel.com/404.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the 404 message you shared&lt;/a&gt;, but there are a couple of BIG problems with it -- both of which make Sean&#039;s point. First of all, I shouldn&#039;t have to wait for a 404 page to load. It&#039;s supposed to help me move forward, not back. The Flash programming makes it bulky and slow-loading. Then, once I finally get to the &quot;about&quot; section, there&#039;s nothing telling me who this person (business?) is. The &quot;press&quot; section is equally mysterious. So, all I&#039;m left with is that this person and/or business built a really amazing error page that left me wondering whether he/she/they did the trailers for the TV show &quot;Lost&quot; or the movie &quot;Missing.&quot; It&#039;s really hard to tell without any prior knowledge. 

Heinz: Thank you for sharing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.us.zylom.com/error404.jsp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt;, but let me tell you why they&#039;re doing exactly what you DON&#039;T want to do. Yes, there&#039;s good navigation and they offer a couple of downloads, but the message is all wrong. They say, &quot;Oops, you are lost!&quot; Hmm... No kidding. Thanks for reminding me. By saying &quot;you are lost,&quot; they&#039;re suggesting that it&#039;s my fault. I&#039;m lost? :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean: Yours demonstrates a simpler approach, and I think it&#8217;s perfect for your needs. I definitely agree that the line between &#8220;creative&#8221; and scaring off customers is thin. In this case, I doubt anyone who&#8217;s familiar with the magazine&#8217;s brand would be scared away. Perhaps I&#8217;m wrong, but I&#8217;m glad you made that point that creativity for its own sake isn&#8217;t a good idea.</p>
<p>Rebeca: Speaking of creativity-for-its-own-sake, I really liked <a href="http://www.bluedaniel.com/404.shtml">the 404 message you shared</a>, but there are a couple of BIG problems with it &#8212; both of which make Sean&#8217;s point. First of all, I shouldn&#8217;t have to wait for a 404 page to load. It&#8217;s supposed to help me move forward, not back. The Flash programming makes it bulky and slow-loading. Then, once I finally get to the &#8220;about&#8221; section, there&#8217;s nothing telling me who this person (business?) is. The &#8220;press&#8221; section is equally mysterious. So, all I&#8217;m left with is that this person and/or business built a really amazing error page that left me wondering whether he/she/they did the trailers for the TV show &#8220;Lost&#8221; or the movie &#8220;Missing.&#8221; It&#8217;s really hard to tell without any prior knowledge. </p>
<p>Heinz: Thank you for sharing <a href="http://www.us.zylom.com/error404.jsp">this one</a>, but let me tell you why they&#8217;re doing exactly what you DON&#8217;T want to do. Yes, there&#8217;s good navigation and they offer a couple of downloads, but the message is all wrong. They say, &#8220;Oops, you are lost!&#8221; Hmm&#8230; No kidding. Thanks for reminding me. By saying &#8220;you are lost,&#8221; they&#8217;re suggesting that it&#8217;s my fault. I&#8217;m lost? <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert Gorell</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/21/best-404-error/comment-page-1/#comment-544159</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Gorell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smufty,

In most cases I&#039;d agree with your critique, but there is a lot to be said for context. Judging from your response, I&#039;m guessing you don&#039;t often read The New Yorker. 

The category names are the ones they use in the magazine, and they&#039;re integral to their brand. They may not be ideal for first-time Web visitors, but it would likely be bad business for them to create a disconnect between the magazine and the website. Also, you can still click on the homepage by clicking the logo on the top navigation. That&#039;s pretty standard, and most visitors will know that intuitively without wondering why they&#039;re not getting a link straight to the homepage. Instead of just the homepage, they&#039;re giving you the opportunity to explore any part of the website. Not a bad idea in this case. 

Finally, in regard to the cartoon, I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s so serious. Keep in mind, this is a literary magazine. It&#039;s not technically a &quot;computer error&quot; but something got derailed -- kind of a soft jab at our reliance on technology. And, yeah, a broken experience is like a broken road. So my take is that it&#039;s sort of like saying, &quot;Well, that happen... Now, where were we?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smufty,</p>
<p>In most cases I&#8217;d agree with your critique, but there is a lot to be said for context. Judging from your response, I&#8217;m guessing you don&#8217;t often read The New Yorker. </p>
<p>The category names are the ones they use in the magazine, and they&#8217;re integral to their brand. They may not be ideal for first-time Web visitors, but it would likely be bad business for them to create a disconnect between the magazine and the website. Also, you can still click on the homepage by clicking the logo on the top navigation. That&#8217;s pretty standard, and most visitors will know that intuitively without wondering why they&#8217;re not getting a link straight to the homepage. Instead of just the homepage, they&#8217;re giving you the opportunity to explore any part of the website. Not a bad idea in this case. </p>
<p>Finally, in regard to the cartoon, I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s so serious. Keep in mind, this is a literary magazine. It&#8217;s not technically a &#8220;computer error&#8221; but something got derailed &#8212; kind of a soft jab at our reliance on technology. And, yeah, a broken experience is like a broken road. So my take is that it&#8217;s sort of like saying, &#8220;Well, that happen&#8230; Now, where were we?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Heinz</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/21/best-404-error/comment-page-1/#comment-543661</link>
		<dc:creator>Heinz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another nice one:

http://www.uk.zylom.com/error</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another nice one:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.uk.zylom.com/error">http://www.uk.zylom.com/error</a></p>
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		<title>By: rebeca</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/21/best-404-error/comment-page-1/#comment-543389</link>
		<dc:creator>rebeca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a really nice one
http://www.bluedaniel.com/404.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a really nice one<br />
<a href="http://www.bluedaniel.com/404.shtml">http://www.bluedaniel.com/404.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Locke</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/21/best-404-error/comment-page-1/#comment-542239</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Locke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love these creative 404 error pages. But I would agree, it is a thin line. User gets the error and is alreay confused, now you want to crack a joke about it. But I think it plays well with most sites. It&#039;s all relative and based on the audience/content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love these creative 404 error pages. But I would agree, it is a thin line. User gets the error and is alreay confused, now you want to crack a joke about it. But I think it plays well with most sites. It&#8217;s all relative and based on the audience/content.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D'Souza</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/21/best-404-error/comment-page-1/#comment-541378</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D'Souza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The line between being &#039;creative&#039; and scaring off customers is quite thin. And while I&#039;d say a fair amount of 404 pages are boring, they do the job. 

You can be interesting without scaring the heck out of customers. Here&#039;s what we do. And it&#039;s still work in progress. :)

http://www.psychotactics.com/404.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The line between being &#8216;creative&#8217; and scaring off customers is quite thin. And while I&#8217;d say a fair amount of 404 pages are boring, they do the job. </p>
<p>You can be interesting without scaring the heck out of customers. Here&#8217;s what we do. And it&#8217;s still work in progress. <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.psychotactics.com/404.htm">http://www.psychotactics.com/404.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Smufty</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/21/best-404-error/comment-page-1/#comment-536663</link>
		<dc:creator>Smufty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..but you weren&#039;t already on the site — and you&#039;d been sent there without the expectation of reading any of their content.&quot;

If he HAD gone there looking for some specific content, he&#039;s be just as likely to hit back upon finding it not there. In addition the &quot;computer error&quot; message does actually suggest it&#039;s the website&#039;s fault, which could encourage a back-click without bothering to check if there&#039;s something obviously wrong with the url, such as a bit missing off the end.

&quot;Not your fault, computer error, this website screwed up&quot; isn&#039;t really that positive a message - heck they even have a fancy error page as it apparantly happens often?

To compound the error they then gives links to stuff with quirky names:

The Film File 
Books Briefly Noted 
Recordings 
Tables for Two 

&quot;Books briefly noted&quot; is clear and to the point. &quot;Recordings&quot;? What&#039;s that, music, video, a fancy name for some pretentious old goat&#039;s blog? I presume not video as there&#039;s a big &quot;Video&quot; text in black at the side. 

A direct list of some of today&#039;s top headlines that someone may have screwed the url up would be both more useful and likely to grab my attention. Alternatively a simple search box and &quot;Oops, file not found, try a search or click HOMEPAGE?&quot; would at least load much faster and narrow my choices. The homepage at least offers me up to date stuff, the search to look for something specific but such a wide choice and silly names to boot just made me wonder - &#039;Do I want to devote any time to exploring this site?&#039;. Answer: Nah.

It left me cold to be honest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;..but you weren&#8217;t already on the site — and you&#8217;d been sent there without the expectation of reading any of their content.&#8221;</p>
<p>If he HAD gone there looking for some specific content, he&#8217;s be just as likely to hit back upon finding it not there. In addition the &#8220;computer error&#8221; message does actually suggest it&#8217;s the website&#8217;s fault, which could encourage a back-click without bothering to check if there&#8217;s something obviously wrong with the url, such as a bit missing off the end.</p>
<p>&#8220;Not your fault, computer error, this website screwed up&#8221; isn&#8217;t really that positive a message &#8211; heck they even have a fancy error page as it apparantly happens often?</p>
<p>To compound the error they then gives links to stuff with quirky names:</p>
<p>The Film File<br />
Books Briefly Noted<br />
Recordings<br />
Tables for Two </p>
<p>&#8220;Books briefly noted&#8221; is clear and to the point. &#8220;Recordings&#8221;? What&#8217;s that, music, video, a fancy name for some pretentious old goat&#8217;s blog? I presume not video as there&#8217;s a big &#8220;Video&#8221; text in black at the side. </p>
<p>A direct list of some of today&#8217;s top headlines that someone may have screwed the url up would be both more useful and likely to grab my attention. Alternatively a simple search box and &#8220;Oops, file not found, try a search or click HOMEPAGE?&#8221; would at least load much faster and narrow my choices. The homepage at least offers me up to date stuff, the search to look for something specific but such a wide choice and silly names to boot just made me wonder &#8211; &#8216;Do I want to devote any time to exploring this site?&#8217;. Answer: Nah.</p>
<p>It left me cold to be honest.</p>
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		<title>By: Book Invention</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/21/best-404-error/comment-page-1/#comment-535753</link>
		<dc:creator>Book Invention</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  (Via Future Now&#8217;s Marketing Optimization Blog) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  (Via Future Now&#8217;s Marketing Optimization Blog) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Denver Website Design</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/21/best-404-error/comment-page-1/#comment-534371</link>
		<dc:creator>Denver Website Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, that&#039;s cute!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, that&#8217;s cute!</p>
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		<title>By: Local Advertising Journal</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/21/best-404-error/comment-page-1/#comment-530151</link>
		<dc:creator>Local Advertising Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That one is quite clever although I&#039;d have to agree with the first post - those are even more entertaining!  Either way, having unique 404 error message pages like those are far better than the same old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That one is quite clever although I&#8217;d have to agree with the first post &#8211; those are even more entertaining!  Either way, having unique 404 error message pages like those are far better than the same old.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Gorell</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/21/best-404-error/comment-page-1/#comment-530038</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Gorell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Rob, but you weren&#039;t already on the site -- and you&#039;d been sent there without the expectation of reading any of their content. 

There&#039;s a qualitative difference, don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Rob, but you weren&#8217;t already on the site &#8212; and you&#8217;d been sent there without the expectation of reading any of their content. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a qualitative difference, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/21/best-404-error/comment-page-1/#comment-530030</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cute. But, I could (and did) hit the back button.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cute. But, I could (and did) hit the back button.</p>
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		<title>By: Audio Bible</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/21/best-404-error/comment-page-1/#comment-528653</link>
		<dc:creator>Audio Bible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julien, I really liked this one too......

http://www.tud.ttu.ee/error.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julien, I really liked this one too&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tud.ttu.ee/error.html">http://www.tud.ttu.ee/error.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Julien Coquet</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/21/best-404-error/comment-page-1/#comment-528624</link>
		<dc:creator>Julien Coquet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Robert,

that made me chuckle :)

My two personal favorites are
Homestar Runner: http://www.homestarrunner.com/404
and
the depressed web server: http://www.tud.ttu.ee/error.html

Cheers,

Julien</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robert,</p>
<p>that made me chuckle <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My two personal favorites are<br />
Homestar Runner: <a href="http://www.homestarrunner.com/404">http://www.homestarrunner.com/404</a><br />
and<br />
the depressed web server: <a href="http://www.tud.ttu.ee/error.html">http://www.tud.ttu.ee/error.html</a></p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Julien</p>
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