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	<title>Comments on: WIRED Sees a Future in &#8220;The ROI of Free&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: William Driving School Stevenage</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/25/wired-free/comment-page-1/#comment-1181090</link>
		<dc:creator>William Driving School Stevenage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also going to offer something for free. I would add it today. Might be a driving lesson FREE form first 2 lessons if the call me after looking at my website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also going to offer something for free. I would add it today. Might be a driving lesson FREE form first 2 lessons if the call me after looking at my website.</p>
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		<title>By: UniqLooks - Spring Scarves made from Stinging Nettles</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/25/wired-free/comment-page-1/#comment-619875</link>
		<dc:creator>UniqLooks - Spring Scarves made from Stinging Nettles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 06:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Robert,

thanks for your response. It was great to get your views on this.

thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robert,</p>
<p>thanks for your response. It was great to get your views on this.</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Gorell</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/25/wired-free/comment-page-1/#comment-616370</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Gorell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 21:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UniqLooks,

I&#039;m really glad you asked that question.

The difference between your free offering and the logic behind the ROI of Free (which is what WIRED seems to be preaching as well) is that, with your offer, you&#039;re using something &quot;free&quot; as a value-add to something that&#039;s already being purchased. 

By giving something away for &quot;free&quot; if (and only if) a purchase is made, customers have a harder time viewing it as being really and truly Free-with-a-capital-&quot;F&quot;. That&#039;s very different from just giving something away for free, then introducing buying opportunities later, once you&#039;ve already convinced the market you&#039;re worth it.

Of course, I don&#039;t know your business metrics, so I&#039;ll tread lightly. But here&#039;s one possibility: Perhaps you would sell more if, instead of telling people that you will give them the DVD with a purchase, that you offer the DVD for free instead. Then the DVD itself -- not the scarf or the promise of the DVD -- is used to bait sales. If you are proven to be a trusted authority on scarves, it may be easier to buy from you.

Alternately, you might want to try not telling the customer that they will receive the DVD at all! Then, when they do receive it with their order, you offer it as a gift (&quot;Our gift to you. 
Thank you for choosing UniqLooks, where there&#039;s a scarf for every season&quot;).

But that&#039;s a slightly different approach; something known as &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagniappe&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;lagniappe&lt;/a&gt;. A close cousin of The ROI of Free, lagniappe exists to spread brand affinity, encourage long-term customer value, and stimulate word-of-mouth. (&quot;Where&#039;d you learn to tie a scarf like that,&quot; they&#039;ll ask. &quot;I bought this from UniqLooks.com and they gave me a free DVD on how to tie them just so,&quot; they&#039;ll answer.)

Again, the ROI-of-Free concept is different. And actually, this blog post and my personal response to you is a good example. FutureNow gives away free advice because one day you, or someone else reading this, will want to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.futurenowinc.com/consultingservices.htm?utm_source=GrokDotCom&amp;utm_medium=Post&amp;utm_content=Link-1289&amp;utm_campaign=ConsultingServices&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hire us&lt;/a&gt;.

As Mike says above, &quot;free&quot; should have real business metrics behind it. But that&#039;s the business&#039;s concern, not the customer&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UniqLooks,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really glad you asked that question.</p>
<p>The difference between your free offering and the logic behind the ROI of Free (which is what WIRED seems to be preaching as well) is that, with your offer, you&#8217;re using something &#8220;free&#8221; as a value-add to something that&#8217;s already being purchased. </p>
<p>By giving something away for &#8220;free&#8221; if (and only if) a purchase is made, customers have a harder time viewing it as being really and truly Free-with-a-capital-&#8221;F&#8221;. That&#8217;s very different from just giving something away for free, then introducing buying opportunities later, once you&#8217;ve already convinced the market you&#8217;re worth it.</p>
<p>Of course, I don&#8217;t know your business metrics, so I&#8217;ll tread lightly. But here&#8217;s one possibility: Perhaps you would sell more if, instead of telling people that you will give them the DVD with a purchase, that you offer the DVD for free instead. Then the DVD itself &#8212; not the scarf or the promise of the DVD &#8212; is used to bait sales. If you are proven to be a trusted authority on scarves, it may be easier to buy from you.</p>
<p>Alternately, you might want to try not telling the customer that they will receive the DVD at all! Then, when they do receive it with their order, you offer it as a gift (&#8221;Our gift to you.<br />
Thank you for choosing UniqLooks, where there&#8217;s a scarf for every season&#8221;).</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s a slightly different approach; something known as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagniappe">lagniappe</a>. A close cousin of The ROI of Free, lagniappe exists to spread brand affinity, encourage long-term customer value, and stimulate word-of-mouth. (&#8221;Where&#8217;d you learn to tie a scarf like that,&#8221; they&#8217;ll ask. &#8220;I bought this from UniqLooks.com and they gave me a free DVD on how to tie them just so,&#8221; they&#8217;ll answer.)</p>
<p>Again, the ROI-of-Free concept is different. And actually, this blog post and my personal response to you is a good example. FutureNow gives away free advice because one day you, or someone else reading this, will want to <a href="http://www.futurenowinc.com/consultingservices.htm?utm_source=GrokDotCom&#038;utm_medium=Post&#038;utm_content=Link-1289&#038;utm_campaign=ConsultingServices">hire us</a>.</p>
<p>As Mike says above, &#8220;free&#8221; should have real business metrics behind it. But that&#8217;s the business&#8217;s concern, not the customer&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: UniqLooks - Spring Scarves with a Sting</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/25/wired-free/comment-page-1/#comment-607426</link>
		<dc:creator>UniqLooks - Spring Scarves with a Sting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, Just a question if you can answer. I totally agree that FREE stuff increases the perceived value of the product it is shipped with. But we are Giving away FREE DVD which shows &quot;How to tie a Scarf in 10 stylish ways&quot; with each of product we sell from our website www.uniqlooks.com This offer has not generated extra interest or sales. If you can comment on ti, it will be good. Here is website www.uniqlooks.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, Just a question if you can answer. I totally agree that FREE stuff increases the perceived value of the product it is shipped with. But we are Giving away FREE DVD which shows &#8220;How to tie a Scarf in 10 stylish ways&#8221; with each of product we sell from our website <a href="http://www.uniqlooks.com">http://www.uniqlooks.com</a> This offer has not generated extra interest or sales. If you can comment on ti, it will be good. Here is website <a href="http://www.uniqlooks.com">http://www.uniqlooks.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Creating a Free Online Experience That Sells</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/25/wired-free/comment-page-1/#comment-605658</link>
		<dc:creator>Creating a Free Online Experience That Sells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] case you haven&#8217;t heard us talk about &#8220;The ROI of Free,&#8221; here&#8217;s what we mean: If you want to gain the attention of potential customers who [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] case you haven&#8217;t heard us talk about &#8220;The ROI of Free,&#8221; here&#8217;s what we mean: If you want to gain the attention of potential customers who [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/25/wired-free/comment-page-1/#comment-554720</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall a lecture from a left-wing economist way back in the eighties. There is &#039;unlimited demand for free services&#039;. If &#039;free&#039; is a cost effective promo for a paid product or service, then you can easily measure the ROI. Free without a payoff horizon is like waiting for Google to buy you out. An expensive long shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall a lecture from a left-wing economist way back in the eighties. There is &#8216;unlimited demand for free services&#8217;. If &#8216;free&#8217; is a cost effective promo for a paid product or service, then you can easily measure the ROI. Free without a payoff horizon is like waiting for Google to buy you out. An expensive long shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Horne</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/25/wired-free/comment-page-1/#comment-546395</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Horne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Robert:

Wanted to e-mail you but can&#039;t find a link on here.  Anyway, since you had referenced my earlier post on the Elves, wanted to let you know I updated today with their Q4 financials.  OfficeMax dropped $50 mil in retail sales this year compared to last Q4.  hah!

Also - this Free thing is crap. I took a run at the Long Tail the other day just to get myself warmed up for this next round!  ;)
cheers,
Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Robert:</p>
<p>Wanted to e-mail you but can&#8217;t find a link on here.  Anyway, since you had referenced my earlier post on the Elves, wanted to let you know I updated today with their Q4 financials.  OfficeMax dropped $50 mil in retail sales this year compared to last Q4.  hah!</p>
<p>Also &#8211; this Free thing is crap. I took a run at the Long Tail the other day just to get myself warmed up for this next round!  <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
cheers,<br />
Kevin</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Schmidt Marketing Troubleshooter &#187; &#8220;Free&#8221; Isn&#8217;t The Same As Easy or Simple</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/25/wired-free/comment-page-1/#comment-541108</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Schmidt Marketing Troubleshooter &#187; &#8220;Free&#8221; Isn&#8217;t The Same As Easy or Simple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read More: Robert Gorell, The Future Now, on The ROI of Free.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Read More: Robert Gorell, The Future Now, on The ROI of Free.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lees nu gratis over gratis &#171; Live on RapidStage!</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/25/wired-free/comment-page-1/#comment-538091</link>
		<dc:creator>Lees nu gratis over gratis &#171; Live on RapidStage!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Grokdotcommer Robert Gorell merkt terecht op dat we tegenwoordig verwachten dat we iets gratis krijgen: “It is evolutionary in the sense that we&#8217;ve come to expect some level of &#8220;free&#8221; something”. Soms komt betalen ook helemaal niet in je op. Muziek en de nieuwste films downloaden, waarom zou je er een cent aan uitgeven? Ik ben zelf van de Napster generatie en weet bijna niet beter. Daarnaast: online betalen voor een liedje klopt gevoelsmatig gewoon niet. Dat heeft Radiohead ook ondervonden met een actie die toch slim leek. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Grokdotcommer Robert Gorell merkt terecht op dat we tegenwoordig verwachten dat we iets gratis krijgen: “It is evolutionary in the sense that we&#8217;ve come to expect some level of &#8220;free&#8221; something”. Soms komt betalen ook helemaal niet in je op. Muziek en de nieuwste films downloaden, waarom zou je er een cent aan uitgeven? Ik ben zelf van de Napster generatie en weet bijna niet beter. Daarnaast: online betalen voor een liedje klopt gevoelsmatig gewoon niet. Dat heeft Radiohead ook ondervonden met een actie die toch slim leek. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sean McNally</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/25/wired-free/comment-page-1/#comment-537317</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean McNally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve given away all sorts of FREE photography services to our local high school (our business consists of about 80% high school seniors) that the teachers and administration comment that we&#039;re there nearly as much as they are... this is usually followed up with any assistance we need as we set up for our next FREE event at the school... I&#039;ll be in all three lunch periods tomorrow... you can&#039;t argue with FREE; it&#039;s always in the budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve given away all sorts of FREE photography services to our local high school (our business consists of about 80% high school seniors) that the teachers and administration comment that we&#8217;re there nearly as much as they are&#8230; this is usually followed up with any assistance we need as we set up for our next FREE event at the school&#8230; I&#8217;ll be in all three lunch periods tomorrow&#8230; you can&#8217;t argue with FREE; it&#8217;s always in the budget.</p>
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