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		<title>By: Ladies Scarves</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/11/no-reason-to-fear-google-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-584463</link>
		<dc:creator>Ladies Scarves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing this new feature in analytics. I was not aware of this. I hope this will help us to improve website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this new feature in analytics. I was not aware of this. I hope this will help us to improve website.</p>
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		<title>By: BradleyT</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/11/no-reason-to-fear-google-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-582970</link>
		<dc:creator>BradleyT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If google comes out with a statement that says, &quot;Google Analytics data has no influence on organic SERPS and no influence on Adwords prices&quot; I think a lot of people would be put at ease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If google comes out with a statement that says, &#8220;Google Analytics data has no influence on organic SERPS and no influence on Adwords prices&#8221; I think a lot of people would be put at ease.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burani, Clicksharp Marketing</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/11/no-reason-to-fear-google-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-580478</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burani, Clicksharp Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still have trouble with this focus on &quot;industry.&quot;  Does GA give us the power to opt certain competitors in or out of this industry definition?  In our business, sometimes our clients are our biggest competitors in other areas -- and of course the lines are blurred.  Has anyone else found a way to really make industry benchmarks a valuable metric?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still have trouble with this focus on &#8220;industry.&#8221;  Does GA give us the power to opt certain competitors in or out of this industry definition?  In our business, sometimes our clients are our biggest competitors in other areas &#8212; and of course the lines are blurred.  Has anyone else found a way to really make industry benchmarks a valuable metric?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Gorell</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/11/no-reason-to-fear-google-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-578052</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Gorell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,

I see why you would read it that way. Perhaps I wasn&#039;t clear.

I didn&#039;t mean to suggest that they would be content with their margins. I don&#039;t think any business should be content with its margins. What I meant to suggest is that those margins are increasing on their own, thanks to market forces, and Google needn&#039;t do anything illegal or immoral to stimulate that trend.

Online ad spending is projected to go up about 24% this year. That means Pay-Per-Click costs are bound to rise even more due to supply and demand.

It&#039;s fashionable to talk about Google as though they&#039;re Big Brother, but at the end of the day, people need to decide for themselves whether this company honors its own privacy policy. 

When they were an emerging company, it was easier for them to get by with essentially saying, &quot;Trust us. We&#039;re Google.&quot; But now they&#039;re in the same predicament that Microsoft is in. People won&#039;t trust them automatically, even when they have no reason to distrust them.

So be it. I&#039;d just like to see some evidence of foul play from the people who make a habit of accusing Google of whatever their supposed scheme du jour may be.

This is a tool that&#039;s helped countless people to understand and grow their businesses more effectively. They&#039;ve recognized the brand value in building and maintaining many similar free services over the past several years. The same can&#039;t be said as easily for Microsoft, which surely doesn&#039;t make Ian&#039;s job any easier (i.e., &quot;Trust me, I work for Microsoft&quot;). Well, now it seems the market trusts one of these brands slightly more than the other -- but just. 

A lot of people reading this may think I&#039;m being naive, but I&#039;ve yet to see any evidence of Google Analytics being anything other than a fine example of company with ample resources recognizing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/25/wired-free/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The ROI of Free&lt;/a&gt;.

I wonder... would people trust Google Analytics more if they had to pay for it?

(Thank you for challenging me to clarify!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>I see why you would read it that way. Perhaps I wasn&#8217;t clear.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to suggest that they would be content with their margins. I don&#8217;t think any business should be content with its margins. What I meant to suggest is that those margins are increasing on their own, thanks to market forces, and Google needn&#8217;t do anything illegal or immoral to stimulate that trend.</p>
<p>Online ad spending is projected to go up about 24% this year. That means Pay-Per-Click costs are bound to rise even more due to supply and demand.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fashionable to talk about Google as though they&#8217;re Big Brother, but at the end of the day, people need to decide for themselves whether this company honors its own privacy policy. </p>
<p>When they were an emerging company, it was easier for them to get by with essentially saying, &#8220;Trust us. We&#8217;re Google.&#8221; But now they&#8217;re in the same predicament that Microsoft is in. People won&#8217;t trust them automatically, even when they have no reason to distrust them.</p>
<p>So be it. I&#8217;d just like to see some evidence of foul play from the people who make a habit of accusing Google of whatever their supposed scheme du jour may be.</p>
<p>This is a tool that&#8217;s helped countless people to understand and grow their businesses more effectively. They&#8217;ve recognized the brand value in building and maintaining many similar free services over the past several years. The same can&#8217;t be said as easily for Microsoft, which surely doesn&#8217;t make Ian&#8217;s job any easier (i.e., &#8220;Trust me, I work for Microsoft&#8221;). Well, now it seems the market trusts one of these brands slightly more than the other &#8212; but just. </p>
<p>A lot of people reading this may think I&#8217;m being naive, but I&#8217;ve yet to see any evidence of Google Analytics being anything other than a fine example of company with ample resources recognizing <a href="http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/02/25/wired-free/">The ROI of Free</a>.</p>
<p>I wonder&#8230; would people trust Google Analytics more if they had to pay for it?</p>
<p>(Thank you for challenging me to clarify!)</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Links for March 14th, 2008 &#124; .eduGuru</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/11/no-reason-to-fear-google-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-577768</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekly Links for March 14th, 2008 &#124; .eduGuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Executives Run Out of Reasons to Fear Google Analytics - In fact, 60% of Fortune 100 businesses now use Google Analytics. And after recent updates to both product and privacy, even the skeptical minority are running out of reasons to fear it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Executives Run Out of Reasons to Fear Google Analytics - In fact, 60% of Fortune 100 businesses now use Google Analytics. And after recent updates to both product and privacy, even the skeptical minority are running out of reasons to fear it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/11/no-reason-to-fear-google-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-577487</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...Besides, Google doesn&#039;t need to rig its own system. Pay-Per-Click costs are rising plenty on their own, don&#039;t you think?...&quot;

Where does this trust in a &quot;We are rich enough&quot; insight stem from? Hasn&#039;t history proved times and times that stock owners are never satisfied, no matter how high the margins may be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Besides, Google doesn&#8217;t need to rig its own system. Pay-Per-Click costs are rising plenty on their own, don&#8217;t you think?&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Where does this trust in a &#8220;We are rich enough&#8221; insight stem from? Hasn&#8217;t history proved times and times that stock owners are never satisfied, no matter how high the margins may be?</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Shagin</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/11/no-reason-to-fear-google-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-575383</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Shagin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice analysis dude. I like your approach</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice analysis dude. I like your approach</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Gorell</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/11/no-reason-to-fear-google-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-573904</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Gorell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CJ,

Sure. But would they? Wouldn&#039;t the SEO community out Google immediately if there were any real evidence of something like that? 

All I&#039;m saying is that, if that were to happen, someone would figure it out soon, and it would be the end of people trusting Google. Especially now that they have DoubleClick and everyone&#039;s watching -- especially Microsoft (not that it&#039;s much comfort to the market, as Ian&#039;s already noted).

Google has an understandable interest in creating a great analytics tool, simply because it integrates so well with AdWords. Until proven otherwise, they&#039;re just leveraging a free tool to make money off you later through text ads.

Besides, Google doesn&#039;t need to rig its own system. Pay-Per-Click costs are &lt;a href=&quot;http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.san&amp;s=78085&amp;Nid=40219&amp;p=916577&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rising plenty on their own&lt;/a&gt;, don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJ,</p>
<p>Sure. But would they? Wouldn&#8217;t the SEO community out Google immediately if there were any real evidence of something like that? </p>
<p>All I&#8217;m saying is that, if that were to happen, someone would figure it out soon, and it would be the end of people trusting Google. Especially now that they have DoubleClick and everyone&#8217;s watching &#8212; especially Microsoft (not that it&#8217;s much comfort to the market, as Ian&#8217;s already noted).</p>
<p>Google has an understandable interest in creating a great analytics tool, simply because it integrates so well with AdWords. Until proven otherwise, they&#8217;re just leveraging a free tool to make money off you later through text ads.</p>
<p>Besides, Google doesn&#8217;t need to rig its own system. Pay-Per-Click costs are <a href="http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.san&#038;s=78085&#038;Nid=40219&#038;p=916577">rising plenty on their own</a>, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/11/no-reason-to-fear-google-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-573870</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to admit, it&#039;d be pretty easy for Google to compare their list of Analytics users against the logins for PPC campaigns, and any idiot could look at the data (particularly ROI and cost per converions) and determine if a PPC advertiser has room in their budget for &quot;a little higher pay per click costs&quot; that would improve Google&#039;s bottom line at the expense of the advertiser, even without revealing Analytics data to anyone outside of Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to admit, it&#8217;d be pretty easy for Google to compare their list of Analytics users against the logins for PPC campaigns, and any idiot could look at the data (particularly ROI and cost per converions) and determine if a PPC advertiser has room in their budget for &#8220;a little higher pay per click costs&#8221; that would improve Google&#8217;s bottom line at the expense of the advertiser, even without revealing Analytics data to anyone outside of Google.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Gorell</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/11/no-reason-to-fear-google-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-573261</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Gorell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

I agree with Ian, too. (Not sure if that was clear from the way I framed the post.)

Thanks for sharing the Michael Gray link. Yeah, I&#039;d say that pretty much proves Ian&#039;s point ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>I agree with Ian, too. (Not sure if that was clear from the way I framed the post.)</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing the Michael Gray link. Yeah, I&#8217;d say that pretty much proves Ian&#8217;s point <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tim Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/11/no-reason-to-fear-google-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-573004</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Ian is right, as evidenced by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Michael Gray&#039;s point of view&lt;/a&gt;. I fall into the &quot;trust, but verify&quot; camp, so I don&#039;t have warm and fuzzies about this, either. But Brick Marketing is essentially right. There&#039;s no such thing as a free lunch. The costs of Google Analytics right now are far below its benefits. As long as that continues, it&#039;s hard to argue against. But - and this is a big &quot;BUT&quot; - any funny business and people will not only run like hell from it, but will likely call for greater oversight from government, too. So, Google - and, especially, MS, given their history - have lots to lose here, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Ian is right, as evidenced by <a href="http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/">Michael Gray&#8217;s point of view</a>. I fall into the &#8220;trust, but verify&#8221; camp, so I don&#8217;t have warm and fuzzies about this, either. But Brick Marketing is essentially right. There&#8217;s no such thing as a free lunch. The costs of Google Analytics right now are far below its benefits. As long as that continues, it&#8217;s hard to argue against. But &#8211; and this is a big &#8220;BUT&#8221; &#8211; any funny business and people will not only run like hell from it, but will likely call for greater oversight from government, too. So, Google &#8211; and, especially, MS, given their history &#8211; have lots to lose here, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Brick Marketing</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/11/no-reason-to-fear-google-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-571543</link>
		<dc:creator>Brick Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the benefits of this free product outweigh the bad, we suppose it is worth it?  Providing they add more valuable features onto it without compromising too much of our &quot;info sharing&quot;, there&#039;s little reason why not to use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the benefits of this free product outweigh the bad, we suppose it is worth it?  Providing they add more valuable features onto it without compromising too much of our &#8220;info sharing&#8221;, there&#8217;s little reason why not to use it.</p>
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