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	<title>Comments on: The Price of Perfection</title>
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	<description>Marketing blog focused on marketing optimization, improving website conversion rates, search engine marketing, web analytics, word of mouth, etc.</description>
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		<title>By: UniqLooks - 100% Cashmere Scarf feels whisper soft</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/14/perfect-website-optimization/comment-page-1/#comment-650026</link>
		<dc:creator>UniqLooks - 100% Cashmere Scarf feels whisper soft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post John, I think it reminds everyone again that GWO is important for succeeding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post John, I think it reminds everyone again that GWO is important for succeeding.</p>
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		<title>By: Milton</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/14/perfect-website-optimization/comment-page-1/#comment-600565</link>
		<dc:creator>Milton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I agree 100% testing is important I dont see any helpful links on how to test 2 different dynamic product pages</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I agree 100% testing is important I dont see any helpful links on how to test 2 different dynamic product pages</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Bishop</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/14/perfect-website-optimization/comment-page-1/#comment-588865</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks John for this great article.  I found it very informative.  I also found a video of you interviewed at the fusebox conference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks John for this great article.  I found it very informative.  I also found a video of you interviewed at the fusebox conference.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0</a></p>
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		<title>By: Differentiation, difference and ecommerce success (Guide to Small Business Ecommerce Strategy)</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/14/perfect-website-optimization/comment-page-1/#comment-586538</link>
		<dc:creator>Differentiation, difference and ecommerce success (Guide to Small Business Ecommerce Strategy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] testing. A comment in that post led John Quarto von Tivadar (such a cool name!) at GrokDotCom to demonstrate the value of split testing. Genius. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] testing. A comment in that post led John Quarto von Tivadar (such a cool name!) at GrokDotCom to demonstrate the value of split testing. Genius. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Baker</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/14/perfect-website-optimization/comment-page-1/#comment-584482</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wrote a very influential statement that should be posted in every cubicle: 

&quot;Customers don&#039;t care if what we have behind-the-scenes is simple or complex. All the customer cares about is how simple and enjoyable — or not — the experience is for them.&quot; 

Interestingly enough and to the point of the story, I was just stating the other day to a few members of our team that I do testing with, that the results of our testing have been too successful lately and that I don&#039;t feel we have been &quot;failing&quot; enough in our endeavors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wrote a very influential statement that should be posted in every cubicle: </p>
<p>&#8220;Customers don&#8217;t care if what we have behind-the-scenes is simple or complex. All the customer cares about is how simple and enjoyable — or not — the experience is for them.&#8221; </p>
<p>Interestingly enough and to the point of the story, I was just stating the other day to a few members of our team that I do testing with, that the results of our testing have been too successful lately and that I don&#8217;t feel we have been &#8220;failing&#8221; enough in our endeavors.</p>
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		<title>By: Ladies Winter Scarves</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/14/perfect-website-optimization/comment-page-1/#comment-584327</link>
		<dc:creator>Ladies Winter Scarves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I use Paypal Checkout. As checkout process controlled by paypal, I suspect I can not optimize checkout process using GWO. I use paypal&#039;s website to generate HTML code for payment buttons. Once user clicks the BUY NOW button, they goes to paypal website. Is there a way I can find out people exiting the checkout process in between.

thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I use Paypal Checkout. As checkout process controlled by paypal, I suspect I can not optimize checkout process using GWO. I use paypal&#8217;s website to generate HTML code for payment buttons. Once user clicks the BUY NOW button, they goes to paypal website. Is there a way I can find out people exiting the checkout process in between.</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/14/perfect-website-optimization/comment-page-1/#comment-579280</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 04:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G&#039;day John,

I just wanted to let you know that I got tremendous value from just one line in your post.

Only yesterday I was grappling with how to come up with a USP for a client who &quot;had a complex site&quot; and then I read your line about about the &quot;experience&quot;. (Cue light globe image.)

I immediately scribbled down, in big letters: &quot;Create the Experience.&quot;

I&#039;ve been reading FutureNow&#039;s stuff for almost 10 years, so you would think I would know this by now.

Just goes to show, it never hurts to go over the basics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G&#8217;day John,</p>
<p>I just wanted to let you know that I got tremendous value from just one line in your post.</p>
<p>Only yesterday I was grappling with how to come up with a USP for a client who &#8220;had a complex site&#8221; and then I read your line about about the &#8220;experience&#8221;. (Cue light globe image.)</p>
<p>I immediately scribbled down, in big letters: &#8220;Create the Experience.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading FutureNow&#8217;s stuff for almost 10 years, so you would think I would know this by now.</p>
<p>Just goes to show, it never hurts to go over the basics.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Shields</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/14/perfect-website-optimization/comment-page-1/#comment-579017</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I think instead of writing a whole article kind of bashing  me because of what I commented, doesn&#039;t really get any farther or help show people they are wrong. I was obviously asking the question because I was looking for someone to maybe show me the right direction. I didn&#039;t write it saying that it wasn&#039;t possible. I was only looking to see if anyone else used it on their site.

I am not a marketing person and I am a developer so when I say I&#039;m a perfectionist I meant code wise. When I was pointed to the GWO from when of our marketing people, I&#039;m pretty sure at the time there wasn&#039;t any documentation on dynamic site. I could have been wrong and missed it. It wasn&#039;t until I looked into it a month or two back, I saw the dynamic site capabilities.

I was very appreciative of your comment and was glad to see you were talking about posting about your experience with it. I wasn&#039;t expecting you to write a whole article kind of bashing me because maybe I didn&#039;t come across the way I meant to :).

Anyways I&#039;ll still be ready to learn any valuable information you guys have on GWO and anything else, because I am always looking to further my knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I think instead of writing a whole article kind of bashing  me because of what I commented, doesn&#8217;t really get any farther or help show people they are wrong. I was obviously asking the question because I was looking for someone to maybe show me the right direction. I didn&#8217;t write it saying that it wasn&#8217;t possible. I was only looking to see if anyone else used it on their site.</p>
<p>I am not a marketing person and I am a developer so when I say I&#8217;m a perfectionist I meant code wise. When I was pointed to the GWO from when of our marketing people, I&#8217;m pretty sure at the time there wasn&#8217;t any documentation on dynamic site. I could have been wrong and missed it. It wasn&#8217;t until I looked into it a month or two back, I saw the dynamic site capabilities.</p>
<p>I was very appreciative of your comment and was glad to see you were talking about posting about your experience with it. I wasn&#8217;t expecting you to write a whole article kind of bashing me because maybe I didn&#8217;t come across the way I meant to <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>Anyways I&#8217;ll still be ready to learn any valuable information you guys have on GWO and anything else, because I am always looking to further my knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Bustos</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/14/perfect-website-optimization/comment-page-1/#comment-578701</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Bustos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the follow-up post John, and such a speedy follow up too.

PS, I don&#039;t have kids but I still think they&#039;re cute enough to model for Gap Kids ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the follow-up post John, and such a speedy follow up too.</p>
<p>PS, I don&#8217;t have kids but I still think they&#8217;re cute enough to model for Gap Kids <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dan Shields</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/03/14/perfect-website-optimization/comment-page-1/#comment-578693</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John,
Great post, but I would like to say that I don&#039;t think our site is more complicated then the next, just that at the time when GWO first came out is when I looked into it and I don&#039;t think they had the documentation then on dynamic sites. I thought that when I read it back a couple months ago when it first started you would put the content on Google and put a script tag in your page thus removing any seo benefit from the content. We already have A/B testing and since I didn&#039;t see anyway to do anything on our product pages I didn&#039;t think it was worth trying for our content pages or what not.

That is exactly why I asked the question because I was sure there were some people out there using GWO on their ecommerce sites but couldn&#039;t find anybody writing about it. I&#039;m a front end developer with a perfectionism for semantic mark up and style/behavior separated from markup as much as I can even on these ecommerce sites which sometimes is pretty hard to do. 

I think you might of taken what I wrote wrong or I didn&#039;t come across the way I wanted to. I definitely embrace being wrong and learning as much as I can to improve our performance, that is why I was excited to see you post in the comments. You obviously pointed out that I was wrong and that your original content is always on your site. That being said I would love to see you guys post some tips on doing product page testing with GWO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,<br />
Great post, but I would like to say that I don&#8217;t think our site is more complicated then the next, just that at the time when GWO first came out is when I looked into it and I don&#8217;t think they had the documentation then on dynamic sites. I thought that when I read it back a couple months ago when it first started you would put the content on Google and put a script tag in your page thus removing any seo benefit from the content. We already have A/B testing and since I didn&#8217;t see anyway to do anything on our product pages I didn&#8217;t think it was worth trying for our content pages or what not.</p>
<p>That is exactly why I asked the question because I was sure there were some people out there using GWO on their ecommerce sites but couldn&#8217;t find anybody writing about it. I&#8217;m a front end developer with a perfectionism for semantic mark up and style/behavior separated from markup as much as I can even on these ecommerce sites which sometimes is pretty hard to do. </p>
<p>I think you might of taken what I wrote wrong or I didn&#8217;t come across the way I wanted to. I definitely embrace being wrong and learning as much as I can to improve our performance, that is why I was excited to see you post in the comments. You obviously pointed out that I was wrong and that your original content is always on your site. That being said I would love to see you guys post some tips on doing product page testing with GWO.</p>
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