Comments on: Facebook Ads Prove That “Targeting” Demographics Is Silly

By: Matt L

Matt L — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 03:39:03 +0000

Ditto earlier comments – I doubt they used their demographics fully. Probably were just doing men, age x-y

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Facebook Ads Run Aground - Broccoli & Cheese — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:00:07 +0000

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By: Jeremy Lim

Jeremy Lim — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:28:15 +0000

I’ve found Facebook to be quite accurate with its ads. I haven’t found too much I’ve been interested in, but it’s all relevant to what’s on my profile. Google AdSense can do it with content that’s not locked into a formula – how hard can it be for Facebook? I can’t imagine it is, so I have faith in Facebook’s ability to target ads.

This leaves me thinking that our friends at MarineCFO may have targeted too broadly and skipped out on psychographics.

By: Franny

Franny — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:10:46 +0000

interesting reading. i find the cost of facebook advertising campaigns quickly adds up.

By: Anthony Ellis

Anthony Ellis — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:21:33 +0000

Commenting on what Mary brought up, I also typically ignore facebook ads. Obviously we are not the “norm”. But because facebook is a free service, I do wonder about the conversion vs. cost of this type of advertising. People are looking for friends and tinkering with their page, do they really want to buy something? Is the timing right?

By: Hanna

Hanna — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:16:39 +0000

My boyfriend, who is listed as being in a relationship, regularly gets ads for dating services, and the like. Thanks, facebook! (And to all those that will say: “Well…do you know what he’s doing on facebook…?”: Yeah, and I can assure you, this is totally random, and not due to him being a “fan” of any business of that type, or anything of that sort!)

By: Mary Schmidt

Mary Schmidt — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:44:43 +0000

As a matter of both principle and practice, I ignore all advertisements in Facebook. That’s not why I’m there. If a line does catch my eye – and then I see “advertisement” I immediately move on to something else.

Just because they can doesn’t mean we care. (and that goes for all types of advertising – including those silly postcard sized ads on the back of public restroom stall doors.)

By: Robert Gorell

Robert Gorell — Wed, 21 May 2008 16:29:49 +0000

Hmm… I just got a Facebook ad for Marine CFO as well. Something’s fishy on their ad platform.

By: Rick Couture

Rick Couture — Fri, 16 May 2008 22:20:50 +0000

Well, I tried a little experiment – hitting hitting “Refresh”
brought up the following ads on my facebook page:

(male, married, 34, Living in Alberta, into marketing, fitness & motorcycles:)

Pizza 73
Vonage “v-phone” ad
Prince Edward Island Travel promo
Telus High speed internet free laptop offer
Alberta’s next top model
Men over 30 – fill out this survey
Penticton Condominium beach vacation homes
funquiz.com – what’s your IQ?
Self help course in Red Deer (my city)
Social Media seminar in Calgary
Free trip draw from travelalerts.ca
HSBC Bank direct savings account

From a relevance standpoint – nothing here seems wrongly targeted, although most are some fairly global products: pizza, travel, etc.

I have to say the geo targeting is spot on – great! and the social media seminar in my area was absolutely relevant.

Perhaps the original post was more of a fluke than the norm, I have to say from my viewpoint, Facebook is doing a pretty good job with ad targeting.

By: David

David — Tue, 13 May 2008 16:59:46 +0000

Here’s the core issue: While a poorly-targeted TV ad reflects badly on the advertiser (and not the network), a poorly-targeted Facebook ad reflects badly on the network (and not the advertiser). The reason is that Facebook integrates advertising WITHIN their programming (my news feed) while the TV network traditionally keeps it separate (product placement aside).

In this sense, Facebook has a much greater responsibility than TV networks to make their ads relevant. When they don’t (as in the above example) they compromise their product experience, and damage their brand, all in exchange for a few pennies per CPM.

By: Maria B

Maria B — Tue, 13 May 2008 10:32:40 +0000

I also seem to be one of the the few who are well targeted by facebook. As a mid twenties female i frequently get advertising for weight loss, cosmetic enhancement and clothing etc, when i changed my status to engaged this advertising shifted slightly to wedding venue /outfits/planners services. Whats more the advertising often links to the specific applications i have added, such as TV shows, environmental issues, music or films.

True enough the advertisements aren’t entirely relevant or of interest but they are targeted to the information i provide on my profile, without knowing my shopping habits too it would be difficult for advertisers to get any further i agree.

By: Dave Carruthers

Dave Carruthers — Tue, 13 May 2008 06:53:10 +0000

I have found facebook advertsing to be extremely successful in the UK and the ads I get displayed have been relevant 90% of the time, things like rugby and family guy ads both things in my profile. Also for one client that was looking to target married women in there 30s we had particularly good success. It could be that Marine CFO just where very broad with there targeting.

Unless you are going after something that is listed in someones interests, such as a TV show, sporting actvity or band it is very difficult as an advertiser to target any further.

By: Double A

Double A — Mon, 12 May 2008 17:36:53 +0000

Technically, They could not do very specific and comprehensive targeting like marineCFO, but as for marriage and other clearly stated information, surely Facebook can take advantage of them. Basically I think the situation James Lamb mentioned is caused by advertisers; They could have not made a very specific targeting; Probably this advertiser supposed some percent of married persons could still want to date~ lol~

Agree with you guys, the Ads in myspace are kind of annoying, which is overstuffed with banners; while in facebook are kind of subtle.But it seems that Facebook could not have salesperson while I can only customize my ads in their Ad Center, totally Ads DIY.

And I think it’s good to have branding pages in Facebook or myspace; You can have thouands of friends even if you can not afford customized page, which could costs you several thousand dollars per month. You can seed your brand and maintian Customer Relationship by exclusive and best deals, hot topics. People could keep checking and spreading your deals throughout their network; but it will take some time to build the relationship and their habits to interact with your page and brand.
Get more ideas through taking a look at Victoria’s pink:myspace.com/vspink(Sponsored) or myspace.com/Newegg(Not Sponsored)

By: Monty

Monty — Sat, 10 May 2008 01:16:48 +0000

Facebooks ability to target any specific demographic is always going to be limited by 1) people’s reluctance to give too much accurate information about themselves for fear of a barrage of advertising, and 2) Advertisers assumptions about how little they know their audience when positioning a message based on scant details about a person’s general demographic profile based on 2 or 3 general factors.

By: Robert Gorell

Robert Gorell — Fri, 09 May 2008 16:38:35 +0000

James,

I’ve actually noticed that MySpace is slightly better at demographic targeting. The difference, though, is that they tend to serve many more — and tackier — banners that are still irrelevant to me. But maybe that has more to do with the companies who advertise on MySpace. I’m not sure. But, yeah, MySpace continues to suffer brand erosion due to push advertising fatigue.

Generally, the ads on Facebook are less intrusive, which is nice, but I’m not sure how affective they are. Virgin America did it right with this banner ad, but that one would have been effective wherever they put it because it had more to do with geographical targeting (i.e., they knew the person getting it lived in New York, and thus could fly Virgin America), and they planned the entire experience from banner, to landing page, to checkout.

To answer your question, though, I’m not exactly sure what sorts of controls Facebook gives to advertisers. If anyone reading this has a good idea, I hope they’ll comment and share it with us.

By: Robert Gorell

Robert Gorell — Fri, 09 May 2008 16:30:17 +0000

Sergei,

This guy, David, says in his post that it’s totally off. I also know him and, suffice it to say, he’s not interested in fishing, doesn’t run a marine business, nor is anything remotely like that listed on his Facebook profile.

By: James Lamb

James Lamb — Fri, 09 May 2008 15:07:34 +0000

Furthermore, are there any controls on who you can and can’t target, at an advertising level?

Either their targeting system is complete rubbish, or there are dating sites targeting married men. And they can’t even say they don’t have the data because my wife is also on Facebook and it says right on my profile that we’re married.

(This is far worse on MySpace, one of the main reasons I’ve pretty much stopped using their service.)

By: Jim Novo

Jim Novo — Fri, 09 May 2008 13:32:50 +0000

I can’t figure out why they don’t do the bag of rocks simple thing and link search to ads, especially in an environment like Facebook where the ads are generally unwelcome. Keying ad display to search guarantees relevancy…

By: sergei

sergei — Thu, 08 May 2008 23:33:00 +0000

yes, it’s true that demographics alone are not good enough, that’s why facebook allows you use keywords that extracts relevant information from people’s interests, so it very well may be that the dude whose page is listed above is actually interested in fishing.