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	<title>Comments on: Hockey Mom Vs. Soccer Mom &#8211; Will It Win Votes?</title>
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		<title>By: banesa</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/04/hockey-mom-vs-soccer-mom-will-it-win-votes/comment-page-1/#comment-1193654</link>
		<dc:creator>banesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i guess the hockey mom didn&#039;t quite win the sympathy of the soccer moms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i guess the hockey mom didn&#8217;t quite win the sympathy of the soccer moms.</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/04/hockey-mom-vs-soccer-mom-will-it-win-votes/comment-page-1/#comment-1189973</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patricia, if everyone thought like you the world would be dead in 50 years.  With a population of zero!  Anyone can amount to something and being a mother is a great thing.  And, btw, most mothers are educated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patricia, if everyone thought like you the world would be dead in 50 years.  With a population of zero!  Anyone can amount to something and being a mother is a great thing.  And, btw, most mothers are educated.</p>
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		<title>By: Hadara Olga</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/04/hockey-mom-vs-soccer-mom-will-it-win-votes/comment-page-1/#comment-1177069</link>
		<dc:creator>Hadara Olga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t considered such things, but after I read this post, I think it&#039;s really interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t considered such things, but after I read this post, I think it&#8217;s really interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/04/hockey-mom-vs-soccer-mom-will-it-win-votes/comment-page-1/#comment-1166852</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 22:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A &quot;Hockey Mon&quot; or a &quot;Soccer Mom&quot; is a term used to describe an uneducated woman who could not amount to anything in life so she chose to have children instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &#8220;Hockey Mon&#8221; or a &#8220;Soccer Mom&#8221; is a term used to describe an uneducated woman who could not amount to anything in life so she chose to have children instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Property Man</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/04/hockey-mom-vs-soccer-mom-will-it-win-votes/comment-page-1/#comment-1157226</link>
		<dc:creator>Property Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well as we all learned from this 2008 lesson; Hockey moms aren&#039;t very well informed on world topics!  I&#039;d love to see a true soccer mom be the next runner up.  That would be far better than a fake hockey mom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well as we all learned from this 2008 lesson; Hockey moms aren&#8217;t very well informed on world topics!  I&#8217;d love to see a true soccer mom be the next runner up.  That would be far better than a fake hockey mom.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 05:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other thing about hockey: it&#039;s pretty much an all-white sport.

What salience, if any, that has in Ms. Palin&#039;s self-branding is anybody&#039;s guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other thing about hockey: it&#8217;s pretty much an all-white sport.</p>
<p>What salience, if any, that has in Ms. Palin&#8217;s self-branding is anybody&#8217;s guess.</p>
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		<title>By: jam0525</title>
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		<dc:creator>jam0525</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a soccer mom and a dog rescuer (yes, 2 pit bulls over the years).  Palin&#039;s image is not one that I want anywhere near the White House or in the news.  I think she could have been a better Mom if she wasn&#039;t in politics and had a 8 to 5&#039;er like so many of us have.

If they wanted to attaract Democratic Women, I think they missed the boat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a soccer mom and a dog rescuer (yes, 2 pit bulls over the years).  Palin&#8217;s image is not one that I want anywhere near the White House or in the news.  I think she could have been a better Mom if she wasn&#8217;t in politics and had a 8 to 5&#8242;er like so many of us have.</p>
<p>If they wanted to attaract Democratic Women, I think they missed the boat.</p>
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		<title>By: No We McCain't</title>
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		<dc:creator>No We McCain't</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah Palin isn&#039;t &quot;good at campaign strategies.&quot; Sarah Palin IS a campaign strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah Palin isn&#8217;t &#8220;good at campaign strategies.&#8221; Sarah Palin IS a campaign strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: teo brebeanu</title>
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		<dc:creator>teo brebeanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont see any difference between hockey mom and soccer mom. I mean there are 2 different sports, but they ARE sports. But, we all have to admit that Sarah is really good at campaign strategies, and my answer is yes i belive it will help her in the political career</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont see any difference between hockey mom and soccer mom. I mean there are 2 different sports, but they ARE sports. But, we all have to admit that Sarah is really good at campaign strategies, and my answer is yes i belive it will help her in the political career</p>
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		<title>By: misspris</title>
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		<dc:creator>misspris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Louise. And Palin says nu-cu-lar. Geez- just what we need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Louise. And Palin says nu-cu-lar. Geez- just what we need.</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/04/hockey-mom-vs-soccer-mom-will-it-win-votes/comment-page-1/#comment-1036961</link>
		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe it will only matter to &quot;Low Information Voters or The sound bite crowd&quot; i.e., people who don&#039;t follow the issues or only watch corporate news. As a woman I believe it&#039;s a demeaning term signaling subservience much like saying I&#039;m just a mom (I won&#039;t rock the boat) making her non-threatening. I suppose if you don&#039;t pay attention you might think she&#039;s non-threatening. Some FACTS below 

*On Charlie Rose she said she was not apposed to war with Russia.
*She believes Roe vs. Wade should be overturned. Her daughter had the right to choose to keep her baby or abortion but the rest of us (women) can&#039;t think for ourselves and should be denied that right.
*She wants to rape Anwar Alaska for Oil, when we don&#039;t need more oil production. The big oil companies stopped refining oil to jack-up the prices. Read the Report: It&#039;s Not About Supply, Stupid - It&#039;s About Regulating the Profiteers, by David Sirota
*She believes God sent us to war in Iraq. PALIN says HOCKEY MOM, I say NEO-CON.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it will only matter to &#8220;Low Information Voters or The sound bite crowd&#8221; i.e., people who don&#8217;t follow the issues or only watch corporate news. As a woman I believe it&#8217;s a demeaning term signaling subservience much like saying I&#8217;m just a mom (I won&#8217;t rock the boat) making her non-threatening. I suppose if you don&#8217;t pay attention you might think she&#8217;s non-threatening. Some FACTS below </p>
<p>*On Charlie Rose she said she was not apposed to war with Russia.<br />
*She believes Roe vs. Wade should be overturned. Her daughter had the right to choose to keep her baby or abortion but the rest of us (women) can&#8217;t think for ourselves and should be denied that right.<br />
*She wants to rape Anwar Alaska for Oil, when we don&#8217;t need more oil production. The big oil companies stopped refining oil to jack-up the prices. Read the Report: It&#8217;s Not About Supply, Stupid &#8211; It&#8217;s About Regulating the Profiteers, by David Sirota<br />
*She believes God sent us to war in Iraq. PALIN says HOCKEY MOM, I say NEO-CON.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I&#039;ve read about several pit bull owners being very upset with the comparison, especially in the wake of the Michael Vick scandal. Some have even claimed that their beloved dogs are better qualified to be a 72-year-old-McCain-heartbeat-away from the presidency than Sarah Palin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I&#8217;ve read about several pit bull owners being very upset with the comparison, especially in the wake of the Michael Vick scandal. Some have even claimed that their beloved dogs are better qualified to be a 72-year-old-McCain-heartbeat-away from the presidency than Sarah Palin.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristen</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/04/hockey-mom-vs-soccer-mom-will-it-win-votes/comment-page-1/#comment-1036794</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A former &quot;Hockey Dad&quot;, Todd Wilkinson, wrote an interesting column in this week’s (9/10/08) &quot;Jackson Hole News and Guide&quot;;  he points out that Sarah Palin&#039;s one liner re: Hockey Moms/ Pit bulls is a common expression to both US and Canadian hockey circles and claims this isn&#039;t a noble breed and far from a compliment. On the contrary, he points out that these are aggressive, mouthy Moms known to scream the F bomb at the ref when their kid gets a penalty, or even encourage injuring and intimidating opponants in the name of winning. Team sports should teach a different lesson; sportsmanship, teamwork, winning and losing with dignity.

  &quot;There&#039;s nothing cute or quaint about a human pit bull&quot; he writes. These hockey pit bull Moms have resulted in a &quot;zero tolerance policy&quot; for teams, coaches, parents and refs. Implemented by USA Hockey, the governing body of the sport. This basically means no swearing, taunting or throwing any objects  . 

“Referring to oneself as a pit-bull parent is juvenile... . The mentality of pit bulls, which parts every crowd into sharply cut rows of either friends or mortal enemies, has never been good for youth athletics. Neither is it good for a divided country where a lack of civility in discourse is degrading our society. The metaphors we invoke to describe ourselves to the world speak a lot about how we see ourselves&quot; . I wonder if John McCain approved her message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A former &#8220;Hockey Dad&#8221;, Todd Wilkinson, wrote an interesting column in this week’s (9/10/08) &#8220;Jackson Hole News and Guide&#8221;;  he points out that Sarah Palin&#8217;s one liner re: Hockey Moms/ Pit bulls is a common expression to both US and Canadian hockey circles and claims this isn&#8217;t a noble breed and far from a compliment. On the contrary, he points out that these are aggressive, mouthy Moms known to scream the F bomb at the ref when their kid gets a penalty, or even encourage injuring and intimidating opponants in the name of winning. Team sports should teach a different lesson; sportsmanship, teamwork, winning and losing with dignity.</p>
<p>  &#8220;There&#8217;s nothing cute or quaint about a human pit bull&#8221; he writes. These hockey pit bull Moms have resulted in a &#8220;zero tolerance policy&#8221; for teams, coaches, parents and refs. Implemented by USA Hockey, the governing body of the sport. This basically means no swearing, taunting or throwing any objects  . </p>
<p>“Referring to oneself as a pit-bull parent is juvenile&#8230; . The mentality of pit bulls, which parts every crowd into sharply cut rows of either friends or mortal enemies, has never been good for youth athletics. Neither is it good for a divided country where a lack of civility in discourse is degrading our society. The metaphors we invoke to describe ourselves to the world speak a lot about how we see ourselves&#8221; . I wonder if John McCain approved her message.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to mention that she doesn&#039;t know how to pronounce the word &quot;nuclear&quot;. Do we really need another one of those?

Thanks to George Bush, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld (lest we forget), the U.S. has a very real branding problem that affects our image on the world stage as well as markets. It&#039;s a serious problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention that she doesn&#8217;t know how to pronounce the word &#8220;nuclear&#8221;. Do we really need another one of those?</p>
<p>Thanks to George Bush, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld (lest we forget), the U.S. has a very real branding problem that affects our image on the world stage as well as markets. It&#8217;s a serious problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah,

If you think word choice isn&#039;t important, in this election or elsewhere, you&#039;ve got much to learn about marketing. The way these candidates brand themselves -- especially in Palin&#039;s case, because she&#039;s left us nothing to consider other than her own makeshift branding -- is in fact a very important issue.

Of course there are more important issues to discuss. But neither John McCain nor Sarah Palin is discussing them. And when they do, as was the case when Charles Gibson interviewed Palin the other night, they&#039;re a disaster (e.g., &quot;We don&#039;t need another Cold War&quot; but we &quot;should include Georgia in NATO&quot; even if that means &quot;going to war&quot; with Russia). For crying out loud, she bragged about being able to see Russia from parts of Alaska as proof of her foreign policy experience!

But alas, this isn&#039;t a political blog, it&#039;s a marketing blog -- hence the analysis on all these little non-issues like Hockey Momdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah,</p>
<p>If you think word choice isn&#8217;t important, in this election or elsewhere, you&#8217;ve got much to learn about marketing. The way these candidates brand themselves &#8212; especially in Palin&#8217;s case, because she&#8217;s left us nothing to consider other than her own makeshift branding &#8212; is in fact a very important issue.</p>
<p>Of course there are more important issues to discuss. But neither John McCain nor Sarah Palin is discussing them. And when they do, as was the case when Charles Gibson interviewed Palin the other night, they&#8217;re a disaster (e.g., &#8220;We don&#8217;t need another Cold War&#8221; but we &#8220;should include Georgia in NATO&#8221; even if that means &#8220;going to war&#8221; with Russia). For crying out loud, she bragged about being able to see Russia from parts of Alaska as proof of her foreign policy experience!</p>
<p>But alas, this isn&#8217;t a political blog, it&#8217;s a marketing blog &#8212; hence the analysis on all these little non-issues like Hockey Momdom.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok. You people seriously have too much time on your hands. And you are inadvertently perpetuating preposterous non-issue political analysis. Let&#039;s all try to focus on the important facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. You people seriously have too much time on your hands. And you are inadvertently perpetuating preposterous non-issue political analysis. Let&#8217;s all try to focus on the important facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Schmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I&#039;m neither a Mom or Hockey fan - it doesn&#039;t do much for me as a woman voter (aside from my other views.)  So, I agree that it is intended as code to the GOP base.  Traditional yet tough, but not too pushy (perhaps this is also why her husband is on every stage with her.)  

I also find it intriguing that while she&#039;s supposed to be such a tough &quot;maverick&quot; woman - they have yet to let her out by herself.  And, are leery of allowing the press access until the McCain campaign can be sure the press will be &quot;respectful.&quot; Puts her right back into the &quot;little woman&quot; category with all those big brave men protecting her.  

And, we all know that if the Democrats had referred to her as a pitbull with lipstick, the screaming could have been heard from here to Alaska and back.  

So, yes, it&#039;s fascinating - and ain&#039;t it amazin&#039; how the GOP all became feminists overnight! (as a commenter on another blog noted.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I&#8217;m neither a Mom or Hockey fan &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t do much for me as a woman voter (aside from my other views.)  So, I agree that it is intended as code to the GOP base.  Traditional yet tough, but not too pushy (perhaps this is also why her husband is on every stage with her.)  </p>
<p>I also find it intriguing that while she&#8217;s supposed to be such a tough &#8220;maverick&#8221; woman &#8211; they have yet to let her out by herself.  And, are leery of allowing the press access until the McCain campaign can be sure the press will be &#8220;respectful.&#8221; Puts her right back into the &#8220;little woman&#8221; category with all those big brave men protecting her.  </p>
<p>And, we all know that if the Democrats had referred to her as a pitbull with lipstick, the screaming could have been heard from here to Alaska and back.  </p>
<p>So, yes, it&#8217;s fascinating &#8211; and ain&#8217;t it amazin&#8217; how the GOP all became feminists overnight! (as a commenter on another blog noted.)</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Beaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Beaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one should say political opinions don&#039;t run deep in the US. In a post specifically requesting comments on the marketing value of the Hockey Mom label, 40% of the responses have been overtly political. Sad. 

I think Pam has it right in suggesting that &quot;hockey mom&quot; has a blue-collar feel (as does hunting for many people). Part of the Republican party&#039;s strategy is to portray Obama as an elitist. Buy marketing Palin as blue-collar, they subtly position Obama as not being blue-collar. 

Will it work? I think it will for some segments of the population, especially those voters who already have a negative opinion of Obama. The point of a VP nomination is to energize the base. Palin&#039;s selection, her speech, and the ensuing political commentary have certainly done that. 

Also worth considering is the belief expressed by many political analysts that men will make the difference in this year&#039;s election. In recent years, it has been suggested that Women were the deciding factor in who won/lost. Hockey (and hunting) certainly fit the male stereotype (true or not), particularly in states where Hockey is a popular sport, such as the Northeast and Midwest, which account for a significant percentage of electoral votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one should say political opinions don&#8217;t run deep in the US. In a post specifically requesting comments on the marketing value of the Hockey Mom label, 40% of the responses have been overtly political. Sad. </p>
<p>I think Pam has it right in suggesting that &#8220;hockey mom&#8221; has a blue-collar feel (as does hunting for many people). Part of the Republican party&#8217;s strategy is to portray Obama as an elitist. Buy marketing Palin as blue-collar, they subtly position Obama as not being blue-collar. </p>
<p>Will it work? I think it will for some segments of the population, especially those voters who already have a negative opinion of Obama. The point of a VP nomination is to energize the base. Palin&#8217;s selection, her speech, and the ensuing political commentary have certainly done that. </p>
<p>Also worth considering is the belief expressed by many political analysts that men will make the difference in this year&#8217;s election. In recent years, it has been suggested that Women were the deciding factor in who won/lost. Hockey (and hunting) certainly fit the male stereotype (true or not), particularly in states where Hockey is a popular sport, such as the Northeast and Midwest, which account for a significant percentage of electoral votes.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pundit Mama&#039;s comment speaks volumes about the image of hockey mom. Why would a hockey mom or any other kind of mom want to beat up a community organizer? Spite, meanness, envy? Does it contribute to the good of the community.

Her statement gives credence to the point about hockey moms being nothing more than reactionary, mean pit bulls with lipstick. If that&#039;s the image &quot;hockey mom&quot; projects, the US is screwed if McCain/Palin get into office. Palin is too macho for her own good.

It&#039;s a nice slogan, but doesn&#039;t translate for me into anything positive about how it will play out in national and world arenas.  It&#039;s just more of the shallow-minded, aggressive meanness that we have seen in action for the past eight miserable years.

Is there such a thing as a hockey mom that will partner with community workers rather than bruise them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pundit Mama&#8217;s comment speaks volumes about the image of hockey mom. Why would a hockey mom or any other kind of mom want to beat up a community organizer? Spite, meanness, envy? Does it contribute to the good of the community.</p>
<p>Her statement gives credence to the point about hockey moms being nothing more than reactionary, mean pit bulls with lipstick. If that&#8217;s the image &#8220;hockey mom&#8221; projects, the US is screwed if McCain/Palin get into office. Palin is too macho for her own good.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a nice slogan, but doesn&#8217;t translate for me into anything positive about how it will play out in national and world arenas.  It&#8217;s just more of the shallow-minded, aggressive meanness that we have seen in action for the past eight miserable years.</p>
<p>Is there such a thing as a hockey mom that will partner with community workers rather than bruise them?</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 01:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a cynical political ploy directed to the base of the Republican party and/or naive folks, to assure them she will always stand behind her man and is not a &#039;uppity&#039;(forgive me) or &#039;liberal&#039; like those &#039;Democratic&#039; women. Will it work? I suppose that depends on the ability of the American people to decipher this machivilian marketing ploy. Sarah Palin was not speaking to the majority of the American people, she was speaking code to the Republican Party base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a cynical political ploy directed to the base of the Republican party and/or naive folks, to assure them she will always stand behind her man and is not a &#8216;uppity&#8217;(forgive me) or &#8216;liberal&#8217; like those &#8216;Democratic&#8217; women. Will it work? I suppose that depends on the ability of the American people to decipher this machivilian marketing ploy. Sarah Palin was not speaking to the majority of the American people, she was speaking code to the Republican Party base.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Newton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Holly - great topic!

I will follow your lead and not wander into political waters.  This is my perception of the term &#039;hockey mom&#039;

First, it&#039;s colored by the frame of reference of &#039;soccer mom&#039;. so some of the same stereotypes carry over for me with &#039;hockey mom&#039;.  That said, I perceive the differences which i think are very purposeful on the part the mccain/pallin marketing machine with the choice of &#039;hockey&#039;.  The differences I perceive include; tough, independant, aggressive.  I think these difference come from my different perceptions of soccer vs. hockey. 

To me, soccer is very athletic but not particularly &quot;tough&quot; and physical like football or hockey.

Moms are moms, so my perceptions and/or stereotypes of mom are the same for both terms.

It also comes off as very authentic.  She really is a hockey mom and can probably back it up with experiences, stories or missing teeth.  I think a lot of women (especially in politics) tried to label themselves as authentic &#039;soccer moms&#039; in order to endear themselves to a certain segment, even if it wasn&#039;t true.

Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Holly &#8211; great topic!</p>
<p>I will follow your lead and not wander into political waters.  This is my perception of the term &#8216;hockey mom&#8217;</p>
<p>First, it&#8217;s colored by the frame of reference of &#8217;soccer mom&#8217;. so some of the same stereotypes carry over for me with &#8216;hockey mom&#8217;.  That said, I perceive the differences which i think are very purposeful on the part the mccain/pallin marketing machine with the choice of &#8216;hockey&#8217;.  The differences I perceive include; tough, independant, aggressive.  I think these difference come from my different perceptions of soccer vs. hockey. </p>
<p>To me, soccer is very athletic but not particularly &#8220;tough&#8221; and physical like football or hockey.</p>
<p>Moms are moms, so my perceptions and/or stereotypes of mom are the same for both terms.</p>
<p>It also comes off as very authentic.  She really is a hockey mom and can probably back it up with experiences, stories or missing teeth.  I think a lot of women (especially in politics) tried to label themselves as authentic &#8217;soccer moms&#8217; in order to endear themselves to a certain segment, even if it wasn&#8217;t true.</p>
<p>Jason</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Curtis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has Palin blown it? Images she has tried to create of herself create conflictive ideas in the minds of others.  The &quot;hockey mom&quot; thing is wrong because it subscosciously clashes with reason: She can´t be mayor and later governor and claim she is a caring mother that takes the kids to hockey. Nor should she claim to be a moose hunter which implies she was goofing off when she was holding down a government salary. Nor shold she be speaking of her Christian values and say she is a &quot;pitbull with lipstick&quot;. &quot;Pitbull&quot; suggests ruthlessness while &quot;lipstick&quot; suggests sexism.
That, added to her missleading statements on &quot;the bridge to nowhere&quot; her comments on fighting influence peddlers  while she hired lobbyists when she was mayor and integrity while trying to fire her police chief all mess up her image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has Palin blown it? Images she has tried to create of herself create conflictive ideas in the minds of others.  The &#8220;hockey mom&#8221; thing is wrong because it subscosciously clashes with reason: She can´t be mayor and later governor and claim she is a caring mother that takes the kids to hockey. Nor should she claim to be a moose hunter which implies she was goofing off when she was holding down a government salary. Nor shold she be speaking of her Christian values and say she is a &#8220;pitbull with lipstick&#8221;. &#8220;Pitbull&#8221; suggests ruthlessness while &#8220;lipstick&#8221; suggests sexism.<br />
That, added to her missleading statements on &#8220;the bridge to nowhere&#8221; her comments on fighting influence peddlers  while she hired lobbyists when she was mayor and integrity while trying to fire her police chief all mess up her image.</p>
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		<title>By: No We McCain't</title>
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		<dc:creator>No We McCain't</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Robert, they were &quot;hockey moms for Obama,&quot; not &quot;soccer moms for Obama.&quot;

Great points, though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Robert, they were &#8220;hockey moms for Obama,&#8221; not &#8220;soccer moms for Obama.&#8221;</p>
<p>Great points, though!</p>
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		<title>By: Pundit Mama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pundit Mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get your shirts here

http://www.cafepress.com/punditmama

My hockey mom can beat up your community organizer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get your shirts here</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cafepress.com/punditmama">http://www.cafepress.com/punditmama</a></p>
<p>My hockey mom can beat up your community organizer</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel bad for all those Canadian and Midwestern &quot;hockey moms&quot; who aren&#039;t gun-toting, &quot;drill, baby, drill&quot; fundamentalist ideologues who mock community organizers despite the fact that they praise one each Sunday. Thanks to Palin, &quot;hockey moms&quot; now have their very own branding problem. As of last night, &quot;hockey mom&quot; means you&#039;re:

-white
-rural
-evangelical
-xenophobic
-snarky
-willfully ignorant of foreign affairs
-a maverick (because you&#039;re brave enough to support the party in power and &quot;take on the oil companies&quot; by pandering to them)
-anti-intellectual
-a polar bear hater
-a pit bull with lipstick (no comment)

Yesterday, the morning after Palin spoke, I noticed a new contingent identifying themselves on the major newspaper websites and blogs: &quot;Soccer Moms for Obama&quot;. And let&#039;s not forget the fact that Palin&#039;s speech flooded the Obama/Biden campaign with $8 million in a single day. Perhaps not all &quot;hockey moms&quot; feel the same -- or perhaps being a &quot;hockey moms&quot; says nothing other than 

On the other end of the spectrum, I&#039;m not sure John Edwards shares much in common with the &quot;jet skiing sons of mill workers&quot;, that John Kerry represents the &quot;windsurfers for truth&quot; contingent, or that Barack Obama represents the &quot;multi-ethnic basketball players raised by single moms&quot;.

The &quot;hockey mom&quot; ploy works with the holier-than-thou family values crowd because Palin&#039;s spontaneously inventing what it means. In a very real sense, Palin owes her self-styled brand to The Soccer Mom Myth that Holly describes in her book -- which is exactly why Palin should read it!

Women -- even suburban and rural white women, believe it or not -- are more complex than these absurd demographics suggest. On the other hand, if you or someone you know are dumb enough to be pandered to for being a fellow &quot;hockey mom&quot;, you&#039;re dumb enough to do just about anything, including voting for Sarah Palin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel bad for all those Canadian and Midwestern &#8220;hockey moms&#8221; who aren&#8217;t gun-toting, &#8220;drill, baby, drill&#8221; fundamentalist ideologues who mock community organizers despite the fact that they praise one each Sunday. Thanks to Palin, &#8220;hockey moms&#8221; now have their very own branding problem. As of last night, &#8220;hockey mom&#8221; means you&#8217;re:</p>
<p>-white<br />
-rural<br />
-evangelical<br />
-xenophobic<br />
-snarky<br />
-willfully ignorant of foreign affairs<br />
-a maverick (because you&#8217;re brave enough to support the party in power and &#8220;take on the oil companies&#8221; by pandering to them)<br />
-anti-intellectual<br />
-a polar bear hater<br />
-a pit bull with lipstick (no comment)</p>
<p>Yesterday, the morning after Palin spoke, I noticed a new contingent identifying themselves on the major newspaper websites and blogs: &#8220;Soccer Moms for Obama&#8221;. And let&#8217;s not forget the fact that Palin&#8217;s speech flooded the Obama/Biden campaign with $8 million in a single day. Perhaps not all &#8220;hockey moms&#8221; feel the same &#8212; or perhaps being a &#8220;hockey moms&#8221; says nothing other than </p>
<p>On the other end of the spectrum, I&#8217;m not sure John Edwards shares much in common with the &#8220;jet skiing sons of mill workers&#8221;, that John Kerry represents the &#8220;windsurfers for truth&#8221; contingent, or that Barack Obama represents the &#8220;multi-ethnic basketball players raised by single moms&#8221;.</p>
<p>The &#8220;hockey mom&#8221; ploy works with the holier-than-thou family values crowd because Palin&#8217;s spontaneously inventing what it means. In a very real sense, Palin owes her self-styled brand to The Soccer Mom Myth that Holly describes in her book &#8212; which is exactly why Palin should read it!</p>
<p>Women &#8212; even suburban and rural white women, believe it or not &#8212; are more complex than these absurd demographics suggest. On the other hand, if you or someone you know are dumb enough to be pandered to for being a fellow &#8220;hockey mom&#8221;, you&#8217;re dumb enough to do just about anything, including voting for Sarah Palin.</p>
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