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	<title>Comments on: 7 Principles of Web 2.0 Copy &#8211; Twitter Style!</title>
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		<title>By: Buyers Guide</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/19/7-principles-of-web-20-copy-twitter-style/comment-page-1/#comment-1176833</link>
		<dc:creator>Buyers Guide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a time consuming 7 principles.How many medium stature websites follow those principles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a time consuming 7 principles.How many medium stature websites follow those principles.</p>
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		<title>By: vitamin cafe</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/19/7-principles-of-web-20-copy-twitter-style/comment-page-1/#comment-1173319</link>
		<dc:creator>vitamin cafe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, couldn&#039;t get myself used to it yet...seems confusing all together for some reason..is it just me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, couldn&#8217;t get myself used to it yet&#8230;seems confusing all together for some reason..is it just me?</p>
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		<title>By: Young Composers</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/19/7-principles-of-web-20-copy-twitter-style/comment-page-1/#comment-1164346</link>
		<dc:creator>Young Composers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 18:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 140 limit is a good practice for writing ad campaigns as well, so practice this technique!  You wouldn&#039;t want to write ad copy that is pages long, no one would read it, and you would most likely lose the sale.

Maybe I should open up a twitter account and see what this is all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 140 limit is a good practice for writing ad campaigns as well, so practice this technique!  You wouldn&#8217;t want to write ad copy that is pages long, no one would read it, and you would most likely lose the sale.</p>
<p>Maybe I should open up a twitter account and see what this is all about.</p>
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		<title>By: canadian bodybuilding</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/19/7-principles-of-web-20-copy-twitter-style/comment-page-1/#comment-1157758</link>
		<dc:creator>canadian bodybuilding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great article</p>
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		<title>By: Landlord</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/19/7-principles-of-web-20-copy-twitter-style/comment-page-1/#comment-1157441</link>
		<dc:creator>Landlord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate Brevity myself.  I could use a lot more of it in my day to day interactions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate Brevity myself.  I could use a lot more of it in my day to day interactions.</p>
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		<title>By: New Method</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/19/7-principles-of-web-20-copy-twitter-style/comment-page-1/#comment-1135625</link>
		<dc:creator>New Method</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would always much prefer to read a detailed well written article rather than one which cut short. However, sometimes it isn&#039;t an article I&#039;m looking for. Surely a balance of both is always good? Let the reader decide and from a writers point of view, it would be good to have good knowledge of writing both long and short articles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would always much prefer to read a detailed well written article rather than one which cut short. However, sometimes it isn&#8217;t an article I&#8217;m looking for. Surely a balance of both is always good? Let the reader decide and from a writers point of view, it would be good to have good knowledge of writing both long and short articles.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/19/7-principles-of-web-20-copy-twitter-style/comment-page-1/#comment-1056393</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

I couldn’t agree with you more.  Over and over it has been shown that (well written) long copy tends to outsell short copy – especially for more considered purchases and/or complex sales.  Also, some temperaments have more questions and need more (or different types of) information to feel comfortable buying.  So, as you said, the trick really is to design one’s link structure so that each visitor can move as quickly through their buying path as they want while also being able to drill down for information on things that matter to them.  I think you’ll find that Persuasion Architecture addresses that design issue perfectly.   

But on Web 2.0 platforms brevity seems to rule more than in-depth content.  Just check out most people&#039;s Facebook comments, updates, wall writing etc.  Or Flickr photo explanations, or even the length of the average viral video - it aint the 30 minute films going viral.

-Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>I couldn’t agree with you more.  Over and over it has been shown that (well written) long copy tends to outsell short copy – especially for more considered purchases and/or complex sales.  Also, some temperaments have more questions and need more (or different types of) information to feel comfortable buying.  So, as you said, the trick really is to design one’s link structure so that each visitor can move as quickly through their buying path as they want while also being able to drill down for information on things that matter to them.  I think you’ll find that Persuasion Architecture addresses that design issue perfectly.   </p>
<p>But on Web 2.0 platforms brevity seems to rule more than in-depth content.  Just check out most people&#8217;s Facebook comments, updates, wall writing etc.  Or Flickr photo explanations, or even the length of the average viral video &#8211; it aint the 30 minute films going viral.</p>
<p>-Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Just wanted to point out that the subject/content of the post was on Web 2.0 principles, so the principles themselves were not meant as a counter to long wordy blog posts but as operating guidelines to success in a Web 2.0 world.  It was simply Bryan&#039;s hope that my writing style might change due to twitter addiction.  In other words, I might become habituated to omitting not only needless but all non-essential words.  

-Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Just wanted to point out that the subject/content of the post was on Web 2.0 principles, so the principles themselves were not meant as a counter to long wordy blog posts but as operating guidelines to success in a Web 2.0 world.  It was simply Bryan&#8217;s hope that my writing style might change due to twitter addiction.  In other words, I might become habituated to omitting not only needless but all non-essential words.  </p>
<p>-Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Martine, Blog Consultant</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/19/7-principles-of-web-20-copy-twitter-style/comment-page-1/#comment-1055903</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Martine, Blog Consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are great tips, but they are great in their own right for copywriting &quot;in the now.&quot; I don&#039;t really see them as an antidote for long, wordy blog posts. You can fix that problem without these tips (except for brevity): Omit needless words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are great tips, but they are great in their own right for copywriting &#8220;in the now.&#8221; I don&#8217;t really see them as an antidote for long, wordy blog posts. You can fix that problem without these tips (except for brevity): Omit needless words.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D'Souza</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/19/7-principles-of-web-20-copy-twitter-style/comment-page-1/#comment-1055882</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D'Souza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not twitter. Or anything else.

It&#039;s understanding thoughts. 
If you have more than one thought in a sentence, then you&#039;re creating confusion in my mind. 

So if I have a sentence like: &lt;i&gt;When we go to the supermarket, and then when we go to the hardware store...&lt;/i&gt;

Oops. Two thoughts. Now my brain in scrambling.
That&#039;s part of the problem. The second is the legendary Jeff&#039;s language (Yes, I&#039;ve sat with Jeff over dinner). You tend to use words that are complex and very &#039;thesaurus-like.&#039; This causes another problem. My brain freezes. Because when you speak or write, the brain is trying to work out what you&#039;re saying. If you use words that are complex e.g. transmogrification :) then you confuse me. My brain is in scramble mode once more.

Now combine the factor of:
1) Too many thoughts in one sentence
2) Too many complex words

And you have a recipe for confusion.
Confusion that Twitter won&#039;t solve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not twitter. Or anything else.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s understanding thoughts.<br />
If you have more than one thought in a sentence, then you&#8217;re creating confusion in my mind. </p>
<p>So if I have a sentence like: <i>When we go to the supermarket, and then when we go to the hardware store&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Oops. Two thoughts. Now my brain in scrambling.<br />
That&#8217;s part of the problem. The second is the legendary Jeff&#8217;s language (Yes, I&#8217;ve sat with Jeff over dinner). You tend to use words that are complex and very &#8216;thesaurus-like.&#8217; This causes another problem. My brain freezes. Because when you speak or write, the brain is trying to work out what you&#8217;re saying. If you use words that are complex e.g. transmogrification <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  then you confuse me. My brain is in scramble mode once more.</p>
<p>Now combine the factor of:<br />
1) Too many thoughts in one sentence<br />
2) Too many complex words</p>
<p>And you have a recipe for confusion.<br />
Confusion that Twitter won&#8217;t solve.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Willard</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/19/7-principles-of-web-20-copy-twitter-style/comment-page-1/#comment-1055820</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Willard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concise is always goog, but I don&#039;t think that less is always more with web copy.  Yes, the headlines, summaries, and calls to action need to be clean, quick and understandable in about a three second scan of the page (the first eye pass).  But after you take care of those very important quick things, having more content available for those that want it can enhance credibility and trust.  Even if people don&#039;t read it, just knowing that is there still might help conversion.  Kind of like putting the 800 number there to call for help.  Even if people don&#039;t call it, having it there gives people the feeling that they are at a legit site.  The trick in my opinion is getting a design which does not impede the flow along the cowpath, but still communicates that there is a rich pasture along the side to spend time in if desired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concise is always goog, but I don&#8217;t think that less is always more with web copy.  Yes, the headlines, summaries, and calls to action need to be clean, quick and understandable in about a three second scan of the page (the first eye pass).  But after you take care of those very important quick things, having more content available for those that want it can enhance credibility and trust.  Even if people don&#8217;t read it, just knowing that is there still might help conversion.  Kind of like putting the 800 number there to call for help.  Even if people don&#8217;t call it, having it there gives people the feeling that they are at a legit site.  The trick in my opinion is getting a design which does not impede the flow along the cowpath, but still communicates that there is a rich pasture along the side to spend time in if desired.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/19/7-principles-of-web-20-copy-twitter-style/comment-page-1/#comment-1052279</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twitter and Haiku.
Twaiku. Gets to the point fast.
Creates clarity.

:o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twitter and Haiku.<br />
Twaiku. Gets to the point fast.<br />
Creates clarity.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: iPhone</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/19/7-principles-of-web-20-copy-twitter-style/comment-page-1/#comment-1051843</link>
		<dc:creator>iPhone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve tried and tried and finally realized 140 chars is too short for life. 

Me = No Twitter 

hey, that&#039;s within 140...may be i&#039;ll try hard this time ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve tried and tried and finally realized 140 chars is too short for life. </p>
<p>Me = No Twitter </p>
<p>hey, that&#8217;s within 140&#8230;may be i&#8217;ll try hard this time <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: [[Neo]] at tsn</title>
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		<dc:creator>[[Neo]] at tsn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Thorren Koopmans... &quot;can I communicate it clearly in 140 Characters or less?&quot; - not if you have to reiterate your point ;-)

I&#039;ve been a Twitter user for 1.5 years now, and I can definitely see a difference in my writing/communication style. While I do get on my verbose kicks, my point-drive information otherwise is usually constrained to 140 characters or less out of habit. Phone, inter-personal, and internal conversations have been condensed and consolidated to make the point in just as many characters.

My thought about marketing since Twitter&#039;s release has been - &quot;what happens to the &#039;elevator pitch&#039; now? does it become a &#039;Twitter pitch&#039;?&quot;

twitter/neotsn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Thorren Koopmans&#8230; &#8220;can I communicate it clearly in 140 Characters or less?&#8221; &#8211; not if you have to reiterate your point <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a Twitter user for 1.5 years now, and I can definitely see a difference in my writing/communication style. While I do get on my verbose kicks, my point-drive information otherwise is usually constrained to 140 characters or less out of habit. Phone, inter-personal, and internal conversations have been condensed and consolidated to make the point in just as many characters.</p>
<p>My thought about marketing since Twitter&#8217;s release has been &#8211; &#8220;what happens to the &#8216;elevator pitch&#8217; now? does it become a &#8216;Twitter pitch&#8217;?&#8221;</p>
<p>twitter/neotsn</p>
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		<title>By: Thorren Koopmans</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/19/7-principles-of-web-20-copy-twitter-style/comment-page-1/#comment-1051625</link>
		<dc:creator>Thorren Koopmans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - re. Point 1 - Twitter.

I find this to be a real challenge.  I love Twitter and hope to someday be good at coming up with meaningful tweets that my followers will actually get something out of.

I don&#039;t follow a whole lot of people, but I can say that from what I&#039;ve seen, tweets with substance are few and far between, but there are definitely some of those.  I find tweeting to be a great excercise in content review.

What am I really trying to say and can I communicate it clearly in 140 Characters or less?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff &#8211; re. Point 1 &#8211; Twitter.</p>
<p>I find this to be a real challenge.  I love Twitter and hope to someday be good at coming up with meaningful tweets that my followers will actually get something out of.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t follow a whole lot of people, but I can say that from what I&#8217;ve seen, tweets with substance are few and far between, but there are definitely some of those.  I find tweeting to be a great excercise in content review.</p>
<p>What am I really trying to say and can I communicate it clearly in 140 Characters or less?</p>
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		<title>By: Audio Bible</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/09/19/7-principles-of-web-20-copy-twitter-style/comment-page-1/#comment-1051325</link>
		<dc:creator>Audio Bible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, if I understand your background correctly, your gift is in writing, right? So imagine a writer being way-too-wordy, overly long when they write something.

Makes sense to me.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, if I understand your background correctly, your gift is in writing, right? So imagine a writer being way-too-wordy, overly long when they write something.</p>
<p>Makes sense to me.  <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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