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		<title>By: pia</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/10/30/presidential-candidates-temperament-website-copy/comment-page-1/#comment-1242937</link>
		<dc:creator>pia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and now we all the the original temparament and the intentions from all selected ppl. and we know, at least that one head is always alternates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and now we all the the original temparament and the intentions from all selected ppl. and we know, at least that one head is always alternates.</p>
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		<title>By: Property Man</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/10/30/presidential-candidates-temperament-website-copy/comment-page-1/#comment-1171207</link>
		<dc:creator>Property Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 15:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to see a followup time article in 4 years to see what their opinion is after the first Obama term!</description>
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		<title>By: Personality Secrets of American Idol&#8217;s Judges &#124; FutureNow's GrokDotCom / Marketing Optimization Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/10/30/presidential-candidates-temperament-website-copy/comment-page-1/#comment-1152936</link>
		<dc:creator>Personality Secrets of American Idol&#8217;s Judges &#124; FutureNow's GrokDotCom / Marketing Optimization Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] just means they wanted 4 judges, and not necessarily that they wanted the judges to line up with the 4 temperaments.  But when you look at the roles and personalities of the judges, the overlay with the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sean D'Souza</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/10/30/presidential-candidates-temperament-website-copy/comment-page-1/#comment-1102789</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D'Souza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oy, what are you doing Jeff? Appealing to two temperaments? :)

I guess I have to admit it&#039;s what we do, though we call it &#039;safe zone.&#039;</description>
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<p>I guess I have to admit it&#8217;s what we do, though we call it &#8217;safe zone.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/10/30/presidential-candidates-temperament-website-copy/comment-page-1/#comment-1102772</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger &amp; Sean,

OK, so here’s my take on your respective comments:

Sean is right that there are times when you might actually need to create an “anti-persona” – someone who you do NOT want as a customer and who you want your copy to actively discourage or drive away.  Roy Williams calls this “choosing whom to lose” 

Sean is also right that building your brand appeal around your core identity means that you can’t be all things to all people.  

But I also believe that Sean confuses the issue on two points that Roger briefly touched upon:

1) Communicating your core appeal in the preferred language and style of a given temperament is NOT a form of false packaging, nor is it in any way an erosion of who you really are.  

Take Sean’s example of have multiple friends of differing temperaments  and imagine planning a group trip to the beach.  Depending on the particular friend you are talking to, you might pitch the idea in different ways, based upon what you know that person finds most appealing and persuasive.  So does this common sense approach require you to change what you’re selling (a beach trip) or to fundamentally change who you are?  

Answer: only if you have a severe personality disorder or are some type of politician.


2) Choosing whom to lose normally doesn’t mean disregarding an entire temperament.  It would be extraordinarily rare for a company to decide that they were ONLY going to market to Competitives, or even that they had absolutely no desire to work with Methodicals.  

While a product category may dictate that, for example, Spontaneous are unlikely to shop in their preferred mode while buying network storage solutions, that’s usually more the exception than the rule.
	
What’s more likely is that, as a consultant, you’ll make a decision to only seek business with clients who are looking to form longer-term partnerships/alliances, and that you want to actively drive away transactional clients.  Great!  But which temperament does that line up with?  Possibly any of them!  

Yeah, Humanistics are more likely to shop relationally, but ANY of the temperaments can shop relationally, and you’d do yourself a huge disservice to stop talking to the other three temperaments based on a decision to target relational customers.  

- Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger &amp; Sean,</p>
<p>OK, so here’s my take on your respective comments:</p>
<p>Sean is right that there are times when you might actually need to create an “anti-persona” – someone who you do NOT want as a customer and who you want your copy to actively discourage or drive away.  Roy Williams calls this “choosing whom to lose” </p>
<p>Sean is also right that building your brand appeal around your core identity means that you can’t be all things to all people.  </p>
<p>But I also believe that Sean confuses the issue on two points that Roger briefly touched upon:</p>
<p>1) Communicating your core appeal in the preferred language and style of a given temperament is NOT a form of false packaging, nor is it in any way an erosion of who you really are.  </p>
<p>Take Sean’s example of have multiple friends of differing temperaments  and imagine planning a group trip to the beach.  Depending on the particular friend you are talking to, you might pitch the idea in different ways, based upon what you know that person finds most appealing and persuasive.  So does this common sense approach require you to change what you’re selling (a beach trip) or to fundamentally change who you are?  </p>
<p>Answer: only if you have a severe personality disorder or are some type of politician.</p>
<p>2) Choosing whom to lose normally doesn’t mean disregarding an entire temperament.  It would be extraordinarily rare for a company to decide that they were ONLY going to market to Competitives, or even that they had absolutely no desire to work with Methodicals.  </p>
<p>While a product category may dictate that, for example, Spontaneous are unlikely to shop in their preferred mode while buying network storage solutions, that’s usually more the exception than the rule.</p>
<p>What’s more likely is that, as a consultant, you’ll make a decision to only seek business with clients who are looking to form longer-term partnerships/alliances, and that you want to actively drive away transactional clients.  Great!  But which temperament does that line up with?  Possibly any of them!  </p>
<p>Yeah, Humanistics are more likely to shop relationally, but ANY of the temperaments can shop relationally, and you’d do yourself a huge disservice to stop talking to the other three temperaments based on a decision to target relational customers.  </p>
<p>- Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D'Souza</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/10/30/presidential-candidates-temperament-website-copy/comment-page-1/#comment-1102765</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D'Souza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t expecting anyone not to take issue. But there are other ways of putting yourself in your customer&#039;s shoes. 

What we try to do on websites is appeal to half a dozen temperaments. And usually conversion increases when you take a crappy web page and give it some direction (with or without temperaments). But if you told me that you needed a specific temperament to get conversion, then that&#039;s not what we&#039;re seeing. 

We clearly don&#039;t want all customers. We&#039;re clearly attracting customers who suit the temperament we&#039;re putting out.

Too many businesses are trying to second-guess their customers. Customers have a clear &#039;want factor.&#039; Deciphering the want factor is (at least to me) more important than having to work out a temperament.

If the right want factor is put out to the customer, they&#039;ll convert, even if at first it doesn&#039;t suit their temperament.

Sean
http://www.psychotactics.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t expecting anyone not to take issue. But there are other ways of putting yourself in your customer&#8217;s shoes. </p>
<p>What we try to do on websites is appeal to half a dozen temperaments. And usually conversion increases when you take a crappy web page and give it some direction (with or without temperaments). But if you told me that you needed a specific temperament to get conversion, then that&#8217;s not what we&#8217;re seeing. </p>
<p>We clearly don&#8217;t want all customers. We&#8217;re clearly attracting customers who suit the temperament we&#8217;re putting out.</p>
<p>Too many businesses are trying to second-guess their customers. Customers have a clear &#8216;want factor.&#8217; Deciphering the want factor is (at least to me) more important than having to work out a temperament.</p>
<p>If the right want factor is put out to the customer, they&#8217;ll convert, even if at first it doesn&#8217;t suit their temperament.</p>
<p>Sean<br />
<a href="http://www.psychotactics.com">http://www.psychotactics.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roger Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to take issue with what Sean posted. I think temperments are a very useful tool in designing web copy. I&#039;m sure we can use such a tool without pretending to change ourselves or be someone else. It just makes sense to me that this is another tool for putting myself (INTP) in my customers&#039; shoes and attempting to communicate in a way that they can hear the message better, or more clearly. I don&#039;t think of this as trying to appeal to everyone. No matter what our temperment we probably all buy a lot of the same stuff: books, cars, newspapers, stationery, you name it. So my question is, in what situations does temperment play a more critical role on a web site? Should we plan to use it in some situations more than others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to take issue with what Sean posted. I think temperments are a very useful tool in designing web copy. I&#8217;m sure we can use such a tool without pretending to change ourselves or be someone else. It just makes sense to me that this is another tool for putting myself (INTP) in my customers&#8217; shoes and attempting to communicate in a way that they can hear the message better, or more clearly. I don&#8217;t think of this as trying to appeal to everyone. No matter what our temperment we probably all buy a lot of the same stuff: books, cars, newspapers, stationery, you name it. So my question is, in what situations does temperment play a more critical role on a web site? Should we plan to use it in some situations more than others?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D'Souza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean D'Souza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree. Appealing to all temperaments is completely unnecessary.

Every person is a &#039;product.&#039; Our friends choose us, just as our partners/wives/husbands choose us.

They choose us for who we are. And who we are in relation to who they are.

If you&#039;re an extrovert, you&#039;ll find that your partner is more than likely to be an introvert, or at least less keen to meet people than you.

You&#039;ll find this common amongst your friends too. You&#039;ll find people of different temperaments calling you their friend.

So what did you do?
Did you change your temperament for each friend? Do you keep changing your temperament for your partner, depending on the mood?

I think not.

The easiest role to play is the role we&#039;re most comfortable with. That role polarises people. There are those who love you for who you are, and those that can&#039;t stick you.

And yet, you attract enough people in your life, no matter what your temperament.

We&#039;ve never written our pages to appeal to a broad spectrum and you can see for yourself that you&#039;ll instantly (and I mean instantly) like or detest us when you get to our site.

You don&#039;t need to package yourself. In fact, you need to &#039;un-package&#039; yourself and your company. Bring out the real DNA of who you are, instead of appealing to every one. 

Try being true to yourself. 
It works.
Not to say the other system doesn&#039;t work, but being true to yourself is a lot less hard work. And far more consistent.

Sean
http://www.psychotactics.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. Appealing to all temperaments is completely unnecessary.</p>
<p>Every person is a &#8216;product.&#8217; Our friends choose us, just as our partners/wives/husbands choose us.</p>
<p>They choose us for who we are. And who we are in relation to who they are.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re an extrovert, you&#8217;ll find that your partner is more than likely to be an introvert, or at least less keen to meet people than you.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll find this common amongst your friends too. You&#8217;ll find people of different temperaments calling you their friend.</p>
<p>So what did you do?<br />
Did you change your temperament for each friend? Do you keep changing your temperament for your partner, depending on the mood?</p>
<p>I think not.</p>
<p>The easiest role to play is the role we&#8217;re most comfortable with. That role polarises people. There are those who love you for who you are, and those that can&#8217;t stick you.</p>
<p>And yet, you attract enough people in your life, no matter what your temperament.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve never written our pages to appeal to a broad spectrum and you can see for yourself that you&#8217;ll instantly (and I mean instantly) like or detest us when you get to our site.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need to package yourself. In fact, you need to &#8216;un-package&#8217; yourself and your company. Bring out the real DNA of who you are, instead of appealing to every one. </p>
<p>Try being true to yourself.<br />
It works.<br />
Not to say the other system doesn&#8217;t work, but being true to yourself is a lot less hard work. And far more consistent.</p>
<p>Sean<br />
<a href="http://www.psychotactics.com">http://www.psychotactics.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jillian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone going into sales or marketing should take the Myers-Briggs. Understanding personalities is key to a successful presentation and closing process. But as a citizen, I don&#039;t feel that temperament should be a major factor in who I vote for - there are more important issues that should be examined and factored into your decision. But thanks for the post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone going into sales or marketing should take the Myers-Briggs. Understanding personalities is key to a successful presentation and closing process. But as a citizen, I don&#8217;t feel that temperament should be a major factor in who I vote for &#8211; there are more important issues that should be examined and factored into your decision. But thanks for the post!</p>
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		<title>By: President On Best Political Blogs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Presidential Candidates, Temperament &#38; Website Copy?</title>
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		<dc:creator>President On Best Political Blogs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Presidential Candidates, Temperament &#38; Website Copy?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 06:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Presidential Candidates, Temperament &amp; Website Copy? And here’s what you can take away from the misperceptions and disagreements surrounding presidential candidate typing:. 1. Myers-Briggs Preferences (and Temperaments) are just that: preferences. People are adaptable and can develop or &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michele Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting!  In the work I been doing on Temperaments in the last year, I&#039;ve had Hillary pegged as an NT in the presentations I give.  Excellent point you make about these being PREFERENCES... a good reminder for all of who try to teach the basics to business owners and marketers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting!  In the work I been doing on Temperaments in the last year, I&#8217;ve had Hillary pegged as an NT in the presentations I give.  Excellent point you make about these being PREFERENCES&#8230; a good reminder for all of who try to teach the basics to business owners and marketers!</p>
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		<title>By: Fanny Cuiso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fanny Cuiso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this to be extremely interesting.  I will have to go get a copy of Time for myself too.</description>
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		<title>By: Tertius</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/10/30/presidential-candidates-temperament-website-copy/comment-page-1/#comment-1101305</link>
		<dc:creator>Tertius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides getting me to think about my own NTness you&#039;ve really opened up a whole new ballgame when it comes to copy.

I may think about this if I have the courage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides getting me to think about my own NTness you&#8217;ve really opened up a whole new ballgame when it comes to copy.</p>
<p>I may think about this if I have the courage.</p>
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		<title>By: Letsfixlosal.com response</title>
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		<dc:creator>Letsfixlosal.com response</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I have to get this copy too! Wow, this does sound interesting, I think temperament matters a lot! A hell lot! 

I think many false decisions were made because of the lack of temperament. Need to read this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I have to get this copy too! Wow, this does sound interesting, I think temperament matters a lot! A hell lot! </p>
<p>I think many false decisions were made because of the lack of temperament. Need to read this.</p>
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		<title>By: Presidential Candidates, Temperament &#38; Website Copy? at Hillary Clinton On Best Political Blogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Presidential Candidates, Temperament &#38; Website Copy? at Hillary Clinton On Best Political Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Presidential Candidates, Temperament &amp; Website Copy? NF/Humanistic for idealistic and emotionally intelligent Obama, and NT+Judging/Competitive for sharp-minded and power-hungry Hillary Clinton. [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>President On Best Political Blogs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Presidential Candidates, Temperament &#38; Website Copy?</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Presidential Candidates, Temperament &amp; Website Copy? &#8230;on the cover, which, before examining them, made me think of previous explanations of temperament using the Four Presidents on Mt Rushmore: [...]</description>
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