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		<title>By: ZineGuru Website Marketing</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1192260</link>
		<dc:creator>ZineGuru Website Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. Since social is relationships and networking with people, adding media to it won&#039;t make it more like using the social aspect as a medium to build reputation and brand in an attempt to market your products or services via content and ads. Wouldn&#039;t that make sense? Some people even call it social media marketing. Many marketers are using social media sites like Twitter and Facebook to promote their businesses. Or maybe they should just call it social networking simply. It&#039;s purely networking initially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. Since social is relationships and networking with people, adding media to it won&#8217;t make it more like using the social aspect as a medium to build reputation and brand in an attempt to market your products or services via content and ads. Wouldn&#8217;t that make sense? Some people even call it social media marketing. Many marketers are using social media sites like Twitter and Facebook to promote their businesses. Or maybe they should just call it social networking simply. It&#8217;s purely networking initially.</p>
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		<title>By: Search Local Companies</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1190664</link>
		<dc:creator>Search Local Companies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is it that the term arrived I wonder?  I agree with the statements, it is interaction by choice or avoidance not social media but who coined the phrase?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it that the term arrived I wonder?  I agree with the statements, it is interaction by choice or avoidance not social media but who coined the phrase?</p>
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		<title>By: make mine a double-shot grande social media, please &#124; blankanvas</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1181582</link>
		<dc:creator>make mine a double-shot grande social media, please &#124; blankanvas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 13:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] marketing and innovation for Procter &amp; Gamble, summed the misconceptions up best when he shared his views at Cincinnati&#8217;s Digital Hub Initiative presented by the Ad Club of Cincinnati: I think when [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Property Management Software</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1177849</link>
		<dc:creator>Property Management Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social media, while it takes a while to weed thru the junk, is far more reliable than the traditional media anyways for exactly the point brought up here, the media can be bought - I mean, just look at Fox News for a prime example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social media, while it takes a while to weed thru the junk, is far more reliable than the traditional media anyways for exactly the point brought up here, the media can be bought &#8211; I mean, just look at Fox News for a prime example.</p>
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		<title>By: Güncel Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1152550</link>
		<dc:creator>Güncel Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.
Social Media / When is defined as a verb / Resolves misnomer.
Thanks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.<br />
Social Media / When is defined as a verb / Resolves misnomer.<br />
Thanks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brand4profit</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1131272</link>
		<dc:creator>Brand4profit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The old method of advertising is interactive marketing. The term is misleading. Most people think it means that there is some type of interaction on the part of the person advertised to, and there is. But, it is not conversational. Instead, the advertiser wants you to interact with their campaign in a specific set of steps. Following the call to action and visiting a website for instance. It’s the push to make you do something. Live this image. Buy this now.

Social Media Marketing is just the opposite. It’s the pull of the tribe. The tribe already has your trust so the actions they take are ones you align with. On a larger scale, it’s the allure of belonging in the group as you take action together. “I am doing this so why don’t you do it with me?” On an individual level, the attraction is to behave the same way to get the same results that benefits your fellow tribeswoman or tribesman. “She looks hot! I want to look hot too. I want to go to her hairstylist” and you do. Social Media Marketing uses the power of attraction.

While advertising tries to use the same tactic, with a billboard for instance, of a gorgeous woman telling you the benefits of the salon, it doesn’t have the same impact because it’s pushing you to go. It is not pulling you in as a trusted friend. Your friends have your best interests at heart and advertisers do not. Social Media Marketing is based on building trust and that foundation will make Social Media a dominant player in Marketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The old method of advertising is interactive marketing. The term is misleading. Most people think it means that there is some type of interaction on the part of the person advertised to, and there is. But, it is not conversational. Instead, the advertiser wants you to interact with their campaign in a specific set of steps. Following the call to action and visiting a website for instance. It’s the push to make you do something. Live this image. Buy this now.</p>
<p>Social Media Marketing is just the opposite. It’s the pull of the tribe. The tribe already has your trust so the actions they take are ones you align with. On a larger scale, it’s the allure of belonging in the group as you take action together. “I am doing this so why don’t you do it with me?” On an individual level, the attraction is to behave the same way to get the same results that benefits your fellow tribeswoman or tribesman. “She looks hot! I want to look hot too. I want to go to her hairstylist” and you do. Social Media Marketing uses the power of attraction.</p>
<p>While advertising tries to use the same tactic, with a billboard for instance, of a gorgeous woman telling you the benefits of the salon, it doesn’t have the same impact because it’s pushing you to go. It is not pulling you in as a trusted friend. Your friends have your best interests at heart and advertisers do not. Social Media Marketing is based on building trust and that foundation will make Social Media a dominant player in Marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: Skaareworks</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1116716</link>
		<dc:creator>Skaareworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debating nomenclature is stimulating for us hawkers but irrelevant to organizations determining the relevancy of social whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debating nomenclature is stimulating for us hawkers but irrelevant to organizations determining the relevancy of social whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: QYPE*Vibes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Media are not Media</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1115922</link>
		<dc:creator>QYPE*Vibes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Media are not Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hat das jemand anders mal richtig dargestellt. Hier, gefunden wie [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Christopher Fahey</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1112966</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Fahey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, Alan Charlesworth wrote his comments the same time I wrote mine. 

The problem isn&#039;t with the term &quot;social media&quot;, it&#039;s with the people who don&#039;t get it. Changing the terminology won&#039;t help them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, Alan Charlesworth wrote his comments the same time I wrote mine. </p>
<p>The problem isn&#8217;t with the term &#8220;social media&#8221;, it&#8217;s with the people who don&#8217;t get it. Changing the terminology won&#8217;t help them.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Fahey</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1112963</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Fahey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because big media people think of social media as one-way or commoditize-able stuff doesn&#039;t mean that the term itself is wrong. Media doesn&#039;t mean &quot;old media&quot; or &quot;big media&quot;. It just means &quot;stuff&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because big media people think of social media as one-way or commoditize-able stuff doesn&#8217;t mean that the term itself is wrong. Media doesn&#8217;t mean &#8220;old media&#8221; or &#8220;big media&#8221;. It just means &#8220;stuff&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Eisenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1112922</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Eisenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that media is “a means of communicating news or information to the public” [Collins].

Many of you have articulated similar understanding.

Nevertheless, we are still left with the problem of perception and expectation based on calling it social media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that media is “a means of communicating news or information to the public” [Collins].</p>
<p>Many of you have articulated similar understanding.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, we are still left with the problem of perception and expectation based on calling it social media.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Charlesworth</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1112912</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Charlesworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t say I&#039;ve ever been comfortable with the term [social media] but I&#039;m sorry Mssrs Eisenberg, it&#039;s not often I disagree with you - but I do on this.

Media is the plural of medium, and the relevant definition of medium is: &quot;a means of communicating news or information to the public&quot; [Collins]. 

Notice no mention of ads - and aren&#039;t my comments on  a hotel review site &#039;information&#039;?

No, my problem is that the medium that is the world wide web has been split into media in a way TV, radio etc has not [do you call phone-in shows on the radio &#039;social radio&#039;?]  

I would have preferred the &#039;social web&#039; to describe MySpace etc, so differentiating it from &#039;commercial&#039; content.

But then MySpace is a commercial venture, even if its content is &#039;social&#039;.

The upshot of this rambling is - I suppose - that there are  very few good definitions for most things related to the Internet. 

This is another, let&#039;s just live with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve ever been comfortable with the term [social media] but I&#8217;m sorry Mssrs Eisenberg, it&#8217;s not often I disagree with you &#8211; but I do on this.</p>
<p>Media is the plural of medium, and the relevant definition of medium is: &#8220;a means of communicating news or information to the public&#8221; [Collins]. </p>
<p>Notice no mention of ads &#8211; and aren&#8217;t my comments on  a hotel review site &#8216;information&#8217;?</p>
<p>No, my problem is that the medium that is the world wide web has been split into media in a way TV, radio etc has not [do you call phone-in shows on the radio 'social radio'?]  </p>
<p>I would have preferred the &#8217;social web&#8217; to describe MySpace etc, so differentiating it from &#8216;commercial&#8217; content.</p>
<p>But then MySpace is a commercial venture, even if its content is &#8217;social&#8217;.</p>
<p>The upshot of this rambling is &#8211; I suppose &#8211; that there are  very few good definitions for most things related to the Internet. </p>
<p>This is another, let&#8217;s just live with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Daniels</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1112906</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where do you cast your line when fishing? Where the fish are biting of course. Social media does exist because social applications have been so successful. The question should not be *if* it exists, but instead *how* to approach this new marketing channel. Traditional marketing communications is changing to meet the new consumers approach to buying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do you cast your line when fishing? Where the fish are biting of course. Social media does exist because social applications have been so successful. The question should not be *if* it exists, but instead *how* to approach this new marketing channel. Traditional marketing communications is changing to meet the new consumers approach to buying.</p>
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		<title>By: Zack Brandit</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1112091</link>
		<dc:creator>Zack Brandit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post.
The way I see it, media is not defined by the capacity to introduce ads or not, buy or sell, nor does it depends on who is the source and who the receiver. Media are communication channels. 
What about tv channels without advertising? Yes, it does exist and yes, we are talking about media. 

I have to agree with Jay Krall, Robert and Webster&#039;s definition. 
Social media is media; &quot;one&quot; which might just be differently perceived by marketers, because they have a hard time categorizing it. Misnomer or not, what I like about this term is that we finally &quot;socialize&quot; media. Another big difference with traditional mass medium is that social media is not one platform such as radio or tv. Social media&#039;s focus is not about the tool used to target a specific audience, but the actual content itself.
This is why different platforms are starting to converge and offer connectivity.

Those who think in terms of tools such as micro-blogging and social networks are still following the traditional media path and will not grasp its full potential...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post.<br />
The way I see it, media is not defined by the capacity to introduce ads or not, buy or sell, nor does it depends on who is the source and who the receiver. Media are communication channels.<br />
What about tv channels without advertising? Yes, it does exist and yes, we are talking about media. </p>
<p>I have to agree with Jay Krall, Robert and Webster&#8217;s definition.<br />
Social media is media; &#8220;one&#8221; which might just be differently perceived by marketers, because they have a hard time categorizing it. Misnomer or not, what I like about this term is that we finally &#8220;socialize&#8221; media. Another big difference with traditional mass medium is that social media is not one platform such as radio or tv. Social media&#8217;s focus is not about the tool used to target a specific audience, but the actual content itself.<br />
This is why different platforms are starting to converge and offer connectivity.</p>
<p>Those who think in terms of tools such as micro-blogging and social networks are still following the traditional media path and will not grasp its full potential&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Tracey</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1112071</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Tracey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Media&#039;s&quot; definition is bound to change over time.  It will remain lodged in the fossil record of our lexicon like &quot;telegraph&quot; in AT&amp;T.

 - - Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Media&#8217;s&#8221; definition is bound to change over time.  It will remain lodged in the fossil record of our lexicon like &#8220;telegraph&#8221; in AT&amp;T.</p>
<p> &#8211; - Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Tryumph</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1111923</link>
		<dc:creator>Tryumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social Media / When is defined as a verb / Resolves misnomer</description>
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		<title>By: Email Marketing Systems &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Media Is NOT Media &#124; FutureNow&#39;s GrokDotCom / Marketing ...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Email Marketing Systems &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Media Is NOT Media &#124; FutureNow&#39;s GrokDotCom / Marketing ...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Another fellow blogger placed an interesting blog post on Social Media Is NOT Media &#124; FutureNow&#039;s GrokDotCom / Marketing &#8230;Here&#8217;s a brief overviewTo suggest that communication frameworks are incompatible with marketing tactics would be to suggest that direct mail and email (both communication frameworks) are also off-limits and unworkable. Given that email generates more ROI than &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Another fellow blogger placed an interesting blog post on Social Media Is NOT Media | FutureNow&#39;s GrokDotCom / Marketing &#8230;Here&#8217;s a brief overviewTo suggest that communication frameworks are incompatible with marketing tactics would be to suggest that direct mail and email (both communication frameworks) are also off-limits and unworkable. Given that email generates more ROI than &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Email Marketing Strategy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Media Is NOT Media &#124; FutureNow&#39;s GrokDotCom / Marketing ...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Email Marketing Strategy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Media Is NOT Media &#124; FutureNow&#39;s GrokDotCom / Marketing ...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Another fellow blogger put an intriguing blog post on Social Media Is NOT Media &#124; FutureNow&#039;s GrokDotCom / Marketing &#8230;Here&#8217;s a quick excerptTo suggest that communication frameworks are incompatible with marketing tactics would be to suggest that direct mail and email (both communication frameworks) are also off-limits and unworkable. Given that email generates more ROI than &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Another fellow blogger put an intriguing blog post on Social Media Is NOT Media | FutureNow&#39;s GrokDotCom / Marketing &#8230;Here&#8217;s a quick excerptTo suggest that communication frameworks are incompatible with marketing tactics would be to suggest that direct mail and email (both communication frameworks) are also off-limits and unworkable. Given that email generates more ROI than &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Just What is Social Media, Exactly?</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1110397</link>
		<dc:creator>Just What is Social Media, Exactly?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeffrey cites something by AdAge that quotes Ted McConnell from Procter &amp; Gamble Co marketing: “I think when we call it ‘consumer-generated media,’ we’re being predatory,” he said. “Who said this is media? Media is something you can buy and sell. Media contains inventory. Media contains blank spaces. Consumers weren’t trying to generate media. They were trying to talk to somebody. So it just seems a bit arrogant. … We hijack their own conversations, their own thoughts and feelings, and try to monetize it.” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeffrey cites something by AdAge that quotes Ted McConnell from Procter &amp; Gamble Co marketing: “I think when we call it ‘consumer-generated media,’ we’re being predatory,” he said. “Who said this is media? Media is something you can buy and sell. Media contains inventory. Media contains blank spaces. Consumers weren’t trying to generate media. They were trying to talk to somebody. So it just seems a bit arrogant. … We hijack their own conversations, their own thoughts and feelings, and try to monetize it.” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1110269</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just because &quot;social media&quot; requires a company to DO something instead of BUY something doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not media.

most companies don&#039;t understand social media because decades of agency culture led them to conclude -- and, gee, i wonder how this happened -- that all interactions with customers can be bought. (un)fortunately, that&#039;s no longer true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just because &#8220;social media&#8221; requires a company to DO something instead of BUY something doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not media.</p>
<p>most companies don&#8217;t understand social media because decades of agency culture led them to conclude &#8212; and, gee, i wonder how this happened &#8212; that all interactions with customers can be bought. (un)fortunately, that&#8217;s no longer true.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1110264</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clicked through from Bryan&#039;s advertisement on Twitter.

Cute theory, though, Jeff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clicked through from Bryan&#8217;s advertisement on Twitter.</p>
<p>Cute theory, though, Jeff.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Krall</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1110239</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Krall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to get into semantics, but actually it would only be a misnomer to refer to social media as a &quot;mass medium&quot;, i.e., a one-way publication or broadcast. However, in the more general sense, &quot;media&quot; simply refers to &quot;means of effecting or conveying&quot;, according to Webster&#039;s. And social media is definitely a way of conveying information in a multi-directional exchange. Thanks for the thought-provoking post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to get into semantics, but actually it would only be a misnomer to refer to social media as a &#8220;mass medium&#8221;, i.e., a one-way publication or broadcast. However, in the more general sense, &#8220;media&#8221; simply refers to &#8220;means of effecting or conveying&#8221;, according to Webster&#8217;s. And social media is definitely a way of conveying information in a multi-directional exchange. Thanks for the thought-provoking post.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay Lebresco (Graco)</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1110231</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay Lebresco (Graco)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve been engaging in &quot;social media&quot; for close to a year now and are 100% committed to the relationship, engagement &amp; conversation we&#039;ve created with our consumer because of the social technology platforms we&#039;ve been able to use.  

I agree that Social Media is a bad term but it&#039;s familiar to people.

Being a corporate blogger &amp; &quot;social media manager,&quot; here are my challenges:
- What should my title be?
- How do I measure our engagements and show &quot;results&quot;
- How do I communicate with the c-suite about &quot;social media&quot; when it&#039;s still a little elusive.

Great quotes from Ted at P&amp;G and great food for thought!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been engaging in &#8220;social media&#8221; for close to a year now and are 100% committed to the relationship, engagement &amp; conversation we&#8217;ve created with our consumer because of the social technology platforms we&#8217;ve been able to use.  </p>
<p>I agree that Social Media is a bad term but it&#8217;s familiar to people.</p>
<p>Being a corporate blogger &amp; &#8220;social media manager,&#8221; here are my challenges:<br />
- What should my title be?<br />
- How do I measure our engagements and show &#8220;results&#8221;<br />
- How do I communicate with the c-suite about &#8220;social media&#8221; when it&#8217;s still a little elusive.</p>
<p>Great quotes from Ted at P&amp;G and great food for thought!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom O'Brien</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1110224</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto to what Ted McConnell said.  Social media??? Are you kidding?  The thing we call Social Media is about conversations.  In fact, we call it Social Computing - just because it isn&#039;t media - it is people using the plumbing (internet) to connect with others who share similar passions - across the boundaries of time and space.

I could go on and on, but I&#039;ll spare you.

TO&#039;B
MotiveQuest</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto to what Ted McConnell said.  Social media??? Are you kidding?  The thing we call Social Media is about conversations.  In fact, we call it Social Computing &#8211; just because it isn&#8217;t media &#8211; it is people using the plumbing (internet) to connect with others who share similar passions &#8211; across the boundaries of time and space.</p>
<p>I could go on and on, but I&#8217;ll spare you.</p>
<p>TO&#8217;B<br />
MotiveQuest</p>
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		<title>By: mack collier</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/18/social-media-is-not-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1110216</link>
		<dc:creator>mack collier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We can’t change the name at this point but what can we do to give companies more realistic expectations?&quot;

Thanks for the link and great post, Jeffrey.  I think we need to do a better job of educating companies/clients on what these &#039;social media&#039; tools are, and why people use them.  They are personal communication tools.  They aren&#039;t new channels to shove marketing messages down, and as such.  This is the problem, cos are viewing social media as yet another form of &#039;traditional marketing&#039;, and trying to measure their efforts with social media as such.

Does calling it &#039;media&#039; make our job more difficult?  Probably so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We can’t change the name at this point but what can we do to give companies more realistic expectations?&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for the link and great post, Jeffrey.  I think we need to do a better job of educating companies/clients on what these &#8217;social media&#8217; tools are, and why people use them.  They are personal communication tools.  They aren&#8217;t new channels to shove marketing messages down, and as such.  This is the problem, cos are viewing social media as yet another form of &#8216;traditional marketing&#8217;, and trying to measure their efforts with social media as such.</p>
<p>Does calling it &#8216;media&#8217; make our job more difficult?  Probably so.</p>
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