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	<title>Comments on: Optimizing for Conversion, Ignoring Consumption</title>
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		<title>By: Property Management Software</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/19/optimizing-for-conversion-ignoring-consumption/comment-page-1/#comment-1177851</link>
		<dc:creator>Property Management Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points...  a $10 starbucks card even given to 1 of 10 signups is FAR FAR cheaper than adwords would ever be for similar results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points&#8230;  a $10 starbucks card even given to 1 of 10 signups is FAR FAR cheaper than adwords would ever be for similar results.</p>
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		<title>By: Gradual Engagement: Einde van de Online Formulier &#124; Actual Insights</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/19/optimizing-for-conversion-ignoring-consumption/comment-page-1/#comment-1121408</link>
		<dc:creator>Gradual Engagement: Einde van de Online Formulier &#124; Actual Insights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] op basis van de aantal inschrijvingen en dan is iedereen snel tevreden. In een reeds verschenen artikel van Bryan Eisenberg wordt er echter niet gesproken over het belang van conversie, maar eerder over consumptie. Het [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] op basis van de aantal inschrijvingen en dan is iedereen snel tevreden. In een reeds verschenen artikel van Bryan Eisenberg wordt er echter niet gesproken over het belang van conversie, maar eerder over consumptie. Het [...]</p>
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		<title>By: No More Consulting Indigestion - News: Everything-e</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/19/optimizing-for-conversion-ignoring-consumption/comment-page-1/#comment-1117867</link>
		<dc:creator>No More Consulting Indigestion - News: Everything-e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 03:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You, the client, in consuming&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] You, the client, in consuming&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: No More Consulting Indigestion &#124; FutureNow's GrokDotCom / Marketing Optimization Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/19/optimizing-for-conversion-ignoring-consumption/comment-page-1/#comment-1117865</link>
		<dc:creator>No More Consulting Indigestion &#124; FutureNow's GrokDotCom / Marketing Optimization Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 03:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the client, in consuming the advice can be the log jam or the hero of every consulting engagement. It&#8217;s rarely the consultant [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the client, in consuming the advice can be the log jam or the hero of every consulting engagement. It&#8217;s rarely the consultant [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D'Souza</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/19/optimizing-for-conversion-ignoring-consumption/comment-page-1/#comment-1112916</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D'Souza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen some good examples by Snag It. They released a video showing you the &#039;secret&#039; features. Which were in fact, existing features that users didn&#039;t know about at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen some good examples by Snag It. They released a video showing you the &#8217;secret&#8217; features. Which were in fact, existing features that users didn&#8217;t know about at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D'Souza</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/19/optimizing-for-conversion-ignoring-consumption/comment-page-1/#comment-1112915</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D'Souza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, Bryan. For those who are interested, there&#039;s a bit of a &#039;book&#039; on the topic of consumption at http://www.spidersecret.com 

-Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Bryan. For those who are interested, there&#8217;s a bit of a &#8216;book&#8217; on the topic of consumption at <a href="http://www.spidersecret.com">http://www.spidersecret.com</a> </p>
<p>-Sean</p>
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		<title>By: SEO-News: Der SEOdiotische Wochenrückblick - KW47 &#124; Der SEOdiot</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/19/optimizing-for-conversion-ignoring-consumption/comment-page-1/#comment-1111659</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO-News: Der SEOdiotische Wochenrückblick - KW47 &#124; Der SEOdiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Conversion ist ja ganz nett - tatsächlicher Konsum aber besser: http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/19/optimizing-for-conversion-ignoring-consumption/ Das find ich einen höchstinteressanten Denkansatz! Vor allem, weil es mir selbst nicht anders [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Conversion ist ja ganz nett &#8211; tatsächlicher Konsum aber besser: <a href="http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/19/optimizing-for-conversion-ignoring-consumption/">http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/19/optimizing-for-conversion-ignoring-consumption/</a> Das find ich einen höchstinteressanten Denkansatz! Vor allem, weil es mir selbst nicht anders [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SFGreg</title>
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		<dc:creator>SFGreg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best experience I&#039;ve had at increasing consumption is to change the balance of spend on keywords.

We have two Google Analytics goals:  1) Thank You page for becoming a lead, and 2) Thank you page for becoming a customer.

When optimization dramatically increased the number of leads from AdWords, the sales people started complaining about bad leads.  In Google Analytics, I found 30 keywords we bid on that were strongly associated with new leads but not associated at all with new customers.

I paused those keywords and the complaints from sales just stopped.  With the extra money, I expanded the spend on keywords that brought in customers.

This would be even better if I was using that hack from Brian Clifton, where you can see the first keyword that brought them to the site, instead of the last click before the conversion.

Which reminds me, if you have any experience with Brian Clifton&#039;s hack I&#039;d be really interested in hearing what you have to say about it.

Happy marketing!  You guys are amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best experience I&#8217;ve had at increasing consumption is to change the balance of spend on keywords.</p>
<p>We have two Google Analytics goals:  1) Thank You page for becoming a lead, and 2) Thank you page for becoming a customer.</p>
<p>When optimization dramatically increased the number of leads from AdWords, the sales people started complaining about bad leads.  In Google Analytics, I found 30 keywords we bid on that were strongly associated with new leads but not associated at all with new customers.</p>
<p>I paused those keywords and the complaints from sales just stopped.  With the extra money, I expanded the spend on keywords that brought in customers.</p>
<p>This would be even better if I was using that hack from Brian Clifton, where you can see the first keyword that brought them to the site, instead of the last click before the conversion.</p>
<p>Which reminds me, if you have any experience with Brian Clifton&#8217;s hack I&#8217;d be really interested in hearing what you have to say about it.</p>
<p>Happy marketing!  You guys are amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Tertius</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2008/11/19/optimizing-for-conversion-ignoring-consumption/comment-page-1/#comment-1110628</link>
		<dc:creator>Tertius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say if you have paid and free accounts.  Every now and again when releasing an awesome new feature give the free accounts (and those they refer) a taste of that feature.

For instance if you are giving 10 to the paid accounts, give 2 to the free accounts.  Or when releasing a new feature, have some that are for all accounts.

I like it when I feel value in a free account, I&#039;m much more likely to know that I&#039;ll be able to get value from a paid account if I&#039;m treated like a real person on a free account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say if you have paid and free accounts.  Every now and again when releasing an awesome new feature give the free accounts (and those they refer) a taste of that feature.</p>
<p>For instance if you are giving 10 to the paid accounts, give 2 to the free accounts.  Or when releasing a new feature, have some that are for all accounts.</p>
<p>I like it when I feel value in a free account, I&#8217;m much more likely to know that I&#8217;ll be able to get value from a paid account if I&#8217;m treated like a real person on a free account.</p>
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