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	<title>Comments on: The Sciences and Disciplines of Web Site Optimization</title>
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		<title>By: Property Management Software</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/02/the-sciences-and-disciplines-of-web-site-optimization/comment-page-1/#comment-1179997</link>
		<dc:creator>Property Management Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although if you have the visitor on your site, that&#039;s 3/4 of the challenge, the other 1/4 should be easy, given the right conversion tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although if you have the visitor on your site, that&#8217;s 3/4 of the challenge, the other 1/4 should be easy, given the right conversion tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrapbook</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/02/the-sciences-and-disciplines-of-web-site-optimization/comment-page-1/#comment-1179510</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrapbook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Testing

What header persuades more? What big yellow button moves more people to take a profitable action? What lead form fields work best for my visitors? These are all questions that cannot be answered by usability studies, but rather by some sort of A/B or multivariate testing. And any effective testing requires some sort of scientific rigor.

SEO Testing</description>
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<p>What header persuades more? What big yellow button moves more people to take a profitable action? What lead form fields work best for my visitors? These are all questions that cannot be answered by usability studies, but rather by some sort of A/B or multivariate testing. And any effective testing requires some sort of scientific rigor.</p>
<p>SEO Testing</p>
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		<title>By: clinica dentaria</title>
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		<dc:creator>clinica dentaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is so much to learn about conversion rate optimization that i&#039;m a bit overwelmed...

But you post was quite a good start. I&#039;ll check the rest of the blog.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is so much to learn about conversion rate optimization that i&#8217;m a bit overwelmed&#8230;</p>
<p>But you post was quite a good start. I&#8217;ll check the rest of the blog.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Optimization</title>
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		<dc:creator>SEO Optimization</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we talk about site &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://googleseooptimization.blogspot.com/&quot; title=&quot;SEO Optimization&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SEO Optimization&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; it&#039;s the same thing with research and discipline to do the work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we talk about site <b><a href="http://googleseooptimization.blogspot.com/" title="SEO Optimization">SEO Optimization</a></b> it&#8217;s the same thing with research and discipline to do the work.</p>
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		<title>By: paul W</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, I think I have been through this discussion with every company I have worked at. I learned this firsthand In the late 90&#039;s at NextCard. You can address findability in a usability test for sure. Are people able to find and figure out how to get to the next step if motivated to do so, wether the motivation is artificial in the case of a usability study or genuine in the wild? And you can ASK people which button/link/widget they are more likely to click, but whatever you do, do not believe their answer!  They will lie to you. Not intentionally, they just don&#039;t really know, so they will just try to please you by answering what they think. But the situation is so artifical, they just can&#039;t simulate their real motivation no matter how much they want to for you. We proved this over and over with real data at NextCard and then again everywhere else. I still like ASKING these things today but strictly for entertainment, as this limitation is well recognized. I think that it is pretty difficult to conduct an effective usability test and apply findings unless you appreciate this limitation perfectly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I think I have been through this discussion with every company I have worked at. I learned this firsthand In the late 90&#8217;s at NextCard. You can address findability in a usability test for sure. Are people able to find and figure out how to get to the next step if motivated to do so, wether the motivation is artificial in the case of a usability study or genuine in the wild? And you can ASK people which button/link/widget they are more likely to click, but whatever you do, do not believe their answer!  They will lie to you. Not intentionally, they just don&#8217;t really know, so they will just try to please you by answering what they think. But the situation is so artifical, they just can&#8217;t simulate their real motivation no matter how much they want to for you. We proved this over and over with real data at NextCard and then again everywhere else. I still like ASKING these things today but strictly for entertainment, as this limitation is well recognized. I think that it is pretty difficult to conduct an effective usability test and apply findings unless you appreciate this limitation perfectly.</p>
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		<title>By: Lia Barrad</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/02/the-sciences-and-disciplines-of-web-site-optimization/comment-page-1/#comment-1128587</link>
		<dc:creator>Lia Barrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.&quot;
Great quote. Also, when I am approached by new client to help them get viewers to click or call, one of the first thing I want look at is their analytics. In many cases, companies to not know how to read them, have never looked at them, and did not know how to turn the clicks into leads. This is part of the science. I also agree that the call to action has to be meaningfull and related to the specific service you offer on a specific page. In otherwords, give someone a specific rather than general a reason to call you. They might think they do not need all of your services, but just one part of what you do. Thanks again for all your insights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.&#8221;<br />
Great quote. Also, when I am approached by new client to help them get viewers to click or call, one of the first thing I want look at is their analytics. In many cases, companies to not know how to read them, have never looked at them, and did not know how to turn the clicks into leads. This is part of the science. I also agree that the call to action has to be meaningfull and related to the specific service you offer on a specific page. In otherwords, give someone a specific rather than general a reason to call you. They might think they do not need all of your services, but just one part of what you do. Thanks again for all your insights.</p>
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		<title>By: florida web design</title>
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		<dc:creator>florida web design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s more discipline than science, and more than anything else when it comes to optimization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s more discipline than science, and more than anything else when it comes to optimization.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Goward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Goward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Bryan. 

It is common for conversion optimization to be dismissed as a usability tool by designers. 

A holistic approach involves so much more, including testing of alternative value proposition components, which can then lead to learning that can even become a driver of other communications messaging. 

The simplification and dismissal of conversion optimization by agencies is driven by fear of data-based decision-making.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Bryan. </p>
<p>It is common for conversion optimization to be dismissed as a usability tool by designers. </p>
<p>A holistic approach involves so much more, including testing of alternative value proposition components, which can then lead to learning that can even become a driver of other communications messaging. </p>
<p>The simplification and dismissal of conversion optimization by agencies is driven by fear of data-based decision-making.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Weinschenk</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/02/the-sciences-and-disciplines-of-web-site-optimization/comment-page-1/#comment-1127563</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Weinschenk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In order to understand what makes people click you need not only to understand Usability and Psychology, but specifically the great new work being done in the psychology of the unconscious. Most decisions and behaviors, including clicking at a website, are made unconsciously. The research is telling and exciting. I just wrote a book about it (Neuro Web Design: What makes them click; see www.neurowebbook.com).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order to understand what makes people click you need not only to understand Usability and Psychology, but specifically the great new work being done in the psychology of the unconscious. Most decisions and behaviors, including clicking at a website, are made unconsciously. The research is telling and exciting. I just wrote a book about it (Neuro Web Design: What makes them click; see <a href="http://www.neurowebbook.com">http://www.neurowebbook.com</a>).</p>
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