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		<title>By: buy chi flat iron</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/09/yelp-reviewer-lands-in-court/comment-page-1/#comment-1190277</link>
		<dc:creator>buy chi flat iron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The consumer has an obligation to stick to the facts of the experience and to have made reasonable attempts to work it out with the business owners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The consumer has an obligation to stick to the facts of the experience and to have made reasonable attempts to work it out with the business owners.</p>
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		<title>By: Property Management Software</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/09/yelp-reviewer-lands-in-court/comment-page-1/#comment-1180843</link>
		<dc:creator>Property Management Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, litigious people suck!  Why must everything end up in court for some people?  If the guy pissed off his customer so bad, lesson learned, don&#039;t tick off customers!  Every single unhappy customer is sure to share their experiences, while only about 1 in 10 happy customers will.  That means there has to be over 10 happy customers for every unhappy one to keep the reviews even even!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, litigious people suck!  Why must everything end up in court for some people?  If the guy pissed off his customer so bad, lesson learned, don&#8217;t tick off customers!  Every single unhappy customer is sure to share their experiences, while only about 1 in 10 happy customers will.  That means there has to be over 10 happy customers for every unhappy one to keep the reviews even even!</p>
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		<title>By: Yelp Reviewer Sued ... Impact? &#124; The Evolving Internet Marketer</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/09/yelp-reviewer-lands-in-court/comment-page-1/#comment-1131961</link>
		<dc:creator>Yelp Reviewer Sued ... Impact? &#124; The Evolving Internet Marketer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Grokdotcom&#8217;s blog post and reader comments on the case at: Yelp Reviewer Lands in Court [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tulsi</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/09/yelp-reviewer-lands-in-court/comment-page-1/#comment-1131904</link>
		<dc:creator>tulsi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi this is ram:i like this site,I’m always wary of a site that has no negative reviews. Allowing customers to post negative reviews gives credibility to the whole process.


ram,

&lt;a href=&quot;www.casualdate.net.au&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;deting&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi this is ram:i like this site,I’m always wary of a site that has no negative reviews. Allowing customers to post negative reviews gives credibility to the whole process.</p>
<p>ram,</p>
<p><a href="www.casualdate.net.au">deting</a></p>
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		<title>By: BJ</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/09/yelp-reviewer-lands-in-court/comment-page-1/#comment-1131718</link>
		<dc:creator>BJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be interested to see how the courts rule this one (not saying I have much faith in them either).

But don&#039;t you think that the Chiropractor should have taken a different approach in the first place? How about contacting the individual and resolving the issue with some positive work.

Obviously if he&#039;s done something wrong, you can&#039;t go down that route other than refunding his bill and hoping he keeps his mouth shut.

In the end Steven Biegel better hope he gets enough from the settlement to start a new career!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be interested to see how the courts rule this one (not saying I have much faith in them either).</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t you think that the Chiropractor should have taken a different approach in the first place? How about contacting the individual and resolving the issue with some positive work.</p>
<p>Obviously if he&#8217;s done something wrong, you can&#8217;t go down that route other than refunding his bill and hoping he keeps his mouth shut.</p>
<p>In the end Steven Biegel better hope he gets enough from the settlement to start a new career!</p>
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		<title>By: Dank</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/09/yelp-reviewer-lands-in-court/comment-page-1/#comment-1131538</link>
		<dc:creator>Dank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher has the right to write anything he wants as long as he&#039;s not slandering the chiropractor. If Chris is able to  prove it in court then the chiropractor will immediately raise a red flag for business ethics. 

I have been convinced to do business based on reviews before. Not only did I run into many problems with him, I found out he had inside connections to delete any reviews that would damage his business. Like Nate says, I am now very careful with sites that has no negative reviews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher has the right to write anything he wants as long as he&#8217;s not slandering the chiropractor. If Chris is able to  prove it in court then the chiropractor will immediately raise a red flag for business ethics. </p>
<p>I have been convinced to do business based on reviews before. Not only did I run into many problems with him, I found out he had inside connections to delete any reviews that would damage his business. Like Nate says, I am now very careful with sites that has no negative reviews.</p>
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		<title>By: Isaac</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/09/yelp-reviewer-lands-in-court/comment-page-1/#comment-1131171</link>
		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, online comments should be treated no differently then those printed/spoken elsewhere.  Consumers certainly have a right to share a negative experience with others, but (especially) when making the kind of accusations Norberg is said to have made (insurance fraud) they had better have some proof to back it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, online comments should be treated no differently then those printed/spoken elsewhere.  Consumers certainly have a right to share a negative experience with others, but (especially) when making the kind of accusations Norberg is said to have made (insurance fraud) they had better have some proof to back it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian O</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/09/yelp-reviewer-lands-in-court/comment-page-1/#comment-1131120</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. It&#039;s best to turn these people into evangelists for your brand rather than bashers. When you can, make every attempt to communicate with them to clear up any miscommunication and offer a detailed explanation and compensation if possible.

On more than one instance I have seen people re-post an explanation and their renewed satisfaction with the experience after contacting them in an informative and empathetic tone.

2. Might be worth a thought to make them sign a waiver agreeing not to post in exchange for services, where applicable. At least then you have that out if it makes it to court.

3. The customer is always right. Now more than ever you need to be treating your customers right. Someone at PubCon said it best, &quot;These problems are easier to prevent than they are to fix.&quot;

Tighten up departmental communications; make sure the sales reps understand your online message and visa versa. Be consistent in your communications and services. In the rare occasion someone blasts you just to be malicious; it&#039;s that much easier to expose them as the only person that seems to have a problem with your services. Counter it with content regarding your attempts to satisfy the customer, a link to the $2k testimonials you have that say otherwise and a link to your BBB profile that states “Company made attempt to settle but customer declined to respond.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. It&#8217;s best to turn these people into evangelists for your brand rather than bashers. When you can, make every attempt to communicate with them to clear up any miscommunication and offer a detailed explanation and compensation if possible.</p>
<p>On more than one instance I have seen people re-post an explanation and their renewed satisfaction with the experience after contacting them in an informative and empathetic tone.</p>
<p>2. Might be worth a thought to make them sign a waiver agreeing not to post in exchange for services, where applicable. At least then you have that out if it makes it to court.</p>
<p>3. The customer is always right. Now more than ever you need to be treating your customers right. Someone at PubCon said it best, &#8220;These problems are easier to prevent than they are to fix.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tighten up departmental communications; make sure the sales reps understand your online message and visa versa. Be consistent in your communications and services. In the rare occasion someone blasts you just to be malicious; it&#8217;s that much easier to expose them as the only person that seems to have a problem with your services. Counter it with content regarding your attempts to satisfy the customer, a link to the $2k testimonials you have that say otherwise and a link to your BBB profile that states “Company made attempt to settle but customer declined to respond.”</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/09/yelp-reviewer-lands-in-court/comment-page-1/#comment-1131108</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The chiropractor reminds me of McDonalds in the UK with the he McLibel Trial that resulted in so much negative publicity.  My view is this is a lose lose situation for both parties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The chiropractor reminds me of McDonalds in the UK with the he McLibel Trial that resulted in so much negative publicity.  My view is this is a lose lose situation for both parties.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/09/yelp-reviewer-lands-in-court/comment-page-1/#comment-1131106</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I value what I read on Yelp as a consumer and expect that I sometimes will hear about a bad experience that a consumer has with a business.

The consumer has an obligation to stick to the facts of the experience and to have made reasonable attempts to work it out with the business owners. Likewise the business owner in this case is unlikely to find the lawsuit to be a winning strategy. He would have been better off to respond with a reasoned refutation of the untruths in the review and an offer to make it right --to the extent possible -- for the client. 

The legal action will make it a much larger story that it would otherwise have been and give the complaint against him much wider airing than it otherwise would have gotten.

As someone who has told the unpleasant truth about a few local businesses on Yelp, I will certainly watch this case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I value what I read on Yelp as a consumer and expect that I sometimes will hear about a bad experience that a consumer has with a business.</p>
<p>The consumer has an obligation to stick to the facts of the experience and to have made reasonable attempts to work it out with the business owners. Likewise the business owner in this case is unlikely to find the lawsuit to be a winning strategy. He would have been better off to respond with a reasoned refutation of the untruths in the review and an offer to make it right &#8211;to the extent possible &#8212; for the client. </p>
<p>The legal action will make it a much larger story that it would otherwise have been and give the complaint against him much wider airing than it otherwise would have gotten.</p>
<p>As someone who has told the unpleasant truth about a few local businesses on Yelp, I will certainly watch this case.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Symons</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/09/yelp-reviewer-lands-in-court/comment-page-1/#comment-1131043</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Symons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The doctor should never have approached the client to change his review. That will only backfire. 

The best way to handle it would have been to go to Yelp and post a response, clearly outlining the facts about the interaction with the client and how the misunderstanding could/would be handled.

From there you can just let people make up their own minds. People aren&#039;t stupid, they can tell which person is telling the truth. If the doctor handled it in this way it would have been very positive exposure for him.

With the lawsuit, he&#039;s clearly on a no win path.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The doctor should never have approached the client to change his review. That will only backfire. </p>
<p>The best way to handle it would have been to go to Yelp and post a response, clearly outlining the facts about the interaction with the client and how the misunderstanding could/would be handled.</p>
<p>From there you can just let people make up their own minds. People aren&#8217;t stupid, they can tell which person is telling the truth. If the doctor handled it in this way it would have been very positive exposure for him.</p>
<p>With the lawsuit, he&#8217;s clearly on a no win path.</p>
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		<title>By: Rygestop</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/09/yelp-reviewer-lands-in-court/comment-page-1/#comment-1131026</link>
		<dc:creator>Rygestop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Biegel wins this one, it will turn the Internet Review business upside down...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Biegel wins this one, it will turn the Internet Review business upside down&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Stamoulis</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/09/yelp-reviewer-lands-in-court/comment-page-1/#comment-1131000</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Stamoulis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t Yelp a review site where you can post any negative experience you have with a business? I think Yelp should step up as well and take a side here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t Yelp a review site where you can post any negative experience you have with a business? I think Yelp should step up as well and take a side here.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/09/yelp-reviewer-lands-in-court/comment-page-1/#comment-1130980</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m always wary of a site that has no negative reviews. Allowing customers to post negative reviews gives credibility to the whole process.


As long as there is nothing inappropriate in the review, I see no problem with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always wary of a site that has no negative reviews. Allowing customers to post negative reviews gives credibility to the whole process.</p>
<p>As long as there is nothing inappropriate in the review, I see no problem with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Rice</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/09/yelp-reviewer-lands-in-court/comment-page-1/#comment-1130358</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I firmly believe, in an active review community, that the authentic business experience will ring true. Today&#039;s online consumers are savvy enough to know that one negative consumer review does not mean a business offers a bad experience. People understand there are people who simply cannot say nice things or really just want attention and a negative review gives them that. It starts to get much more relevant when there are multiple negative or multiple positive reviews. The business owners best response here would have been to reach out to this individual and ask what could be done differently and then make changes accordingly and then left it alone. Let the review community do its job. If the negative review is unfounded the other consumers would make it right by posting the true experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I firmly believe, in an active review community, that the authentic business experience will ring true. Today&#8217;s online consumers are savvy enough to know that one negative consumer review does not mean a business offers a bad experience. People understand there are people who simply cannot say nice things or really just want attention and a negative review gives them that. It starts to get much more relevant when there are multiple negative or multiple positive reviews. The business owners best response here would have been to reach out to this individual and ask what could be done differently and then make changes accordingly and then left it alone. Let the review community do its job. If the negative review is unfounded the other consumers would make it right by posting the true experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawsuit For Leaving A Negative Review Online? &#187; Paul Rouke and PRWD on User Centered Design</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/09/yelp-reviewer-lands-in-court/comment-page-1/#comment-1130191</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawsuit For Leaving A Negative Review Online? &#187; Paul Rouke and PRWD on User Centered Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 09:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] comments about the value of user reviews on the UK version of Yelp, I have read with much interest a post by Bryan Eisenberg referring to the US version of Yelp, where one of their users faces a lawsuit for leaving negative [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] comments about the value of user reviews on the UK version of Yelp, I have read with much interest a post by Bryan Eisenberg referring to the US version of Yelp, where one of their users faces a lawsuit for leaving negative [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Rouke</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/09/yelp-reviewer-lands-in-court/comment-page-1/#comment-1130183</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Rouke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 09:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with Kyle&#039;s second point regarding you should as a consumer have the right to post negative reviews (if your conscience is clear).

From the main story page I think this statement is of particular relevance:

&quot;When people try to pull down unflattering material, it has the absolute opposite effect&quot; of what they intend, he said. &quot;It&#039;s very difficult to silence speakers on the Internet - it&#039;s a culture of people who don&#039;t like those kinds of attempts.&quot;

The facts are that there are some people more vocal and willing to defend their views than others online, and it looks like Mr Biegel has just so happened to find one of these more vocal people in Mr Norberg.

In response to one of your questions Bryan, if a negative review is considered libel then we&#039;re defeating what is one of the strengths of online, which is about allowing your customers and users to tell other about their experiences, good or bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with Kyle&#8217;s second point regarding you should as a consumer have the right to post negative reviews (if your conscience is clear).</p>
<p>From the main story page I think this statement is of particular relevance:</p>
<p>&#8220;When people try to pull down unflattering material, it has the absolute opposite effect&#8221; of what they intend, he said. &#8220;It&#8217;s very difficult to silence speakers on the Internet &#8211; it&#8217;s a culture of people who don&#8217;t like those kinds of attempts.&#8221;</p>
<p>The facts are that there are some people more vocal and willing to defend their views than others online, and it looks like Mr Biegel has just so happened to find one of these more vocal people in Mr Norberg.</p>
<p>In response to one of your questions Bryan, if a negative review is considered libel then we&#8217;re defeating what is one of the strengths of online, which is about allowing your customers and users to tell other about their experiences, good or bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/01/09/yelp-reviewer-lands-in-court/comment-page-1/#comment-1129977</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I would attempt to resolve the issue with the business owner first and give them a chance to address any issues. 

However, I feel that every customer has the right to post negative reviews in any public forum if they are telling the truth about an experience they had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I would attempt to resolve the issue with the business owner first and give them a chance to address any issues. </p>
<p>However, I feel that every customer has the right to post negative reviews in any public forum if they are telling the truth about an experience they had.</p>
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