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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;C&#8217;mon, Man, Do Some of that Optimization Sh*t&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/07/cmon-man-do-some-of-that-optimization-sht/comment-page-1/#comment-1201468</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 12:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this post
it is exactly true.
In my opinion, all the optimization may not matter if your customer support is terrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this post<br />
it is exactly true.<br />
In my opinion, all the optimization may not matter if your customer support is terrible.</p>
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		<title>By: I'm not saying</title>
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		<dc:creator>I'm not saying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so true. So many clients want a magic bullet that really just does not exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so true. So many clients want a magic bullet that really just does not exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he he he he :) :) nice post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he he he he <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  nice post</p>
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		<title>By: Troy Scheer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy Scheer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, Jeff, I thought that SEO, Conversion, User Experience stuff was just magic that happened with the snap of a finger. That&#039;s what most clients think. You mean that isn&#039;t the case? :) In all seriousness, good stuff, Jeff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, Jeff, I thought that SEO, Conversion, User Experience stuff was just magic that happened with the snap of a finger. That&#8217;s what most clients think. You mean that isn&#8217;t the case? <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  In all seriousness, good stuff, Jeff.</p>
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		<title>By: Looking backwards to look forward (Small Business E-Commerce Link Digest &#8211; July 10, 2009)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Looking backwards to look forward (Small Business E-Commerce Link Digest &#8211; July 10, 2009)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] these efforts show the road to improvement relies on setting the right goals, putting in the time, fixing what needs to be fixed. Yes, it&#8217;s definitely more important in the long run to work smarter. But, sometimes [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] these efforts show the road to improvement relies on setting the right goals, putting in the time, fixing what needs to be fixed. Yes, it&#8217;s definitely more important in the long run to work smarter. But, sometimes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Guide2carehomes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guide2carehomes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen little tweaks here and there make a big difference. Just ordered &#039;Waiting for you cat to bark&#039; - I&#039;m looking forward to reading that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen little tweaks here and there make a big difference. Just ordered &#8216;Waiting for you cat to bark&#8217; &#8211; I&#8217;m looking forward to reading that!</p>
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		<title>By: PetsRight</title>
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		<dc:creator>PetsRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. The title alone had me laughing out loud.

@Søren Sprogø - Wow. That&#039;s honesty for your a**! Lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. The title alone had me laughing out loud.</p>
<p>@Søren Sprogø &#8211; Wow. That&#8217;s honesty for your a**! Lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Goldberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goldberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 07:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right Jeff,Sometimes those little tweaks here and there can work wonders with conversions.I have seen a lot of site with little bit of optimization changed the way visitors use to perceive them before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right Jeff,Sometimes those little tweaks here and there can work wonders with conversions.I have seen a lot of site with little bit of optimization changed the way visitors use to perceive them before.</p>
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		<title>By: ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you sitting in on my client meetings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sitting in on my client meetings?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,

That&#039;s just the thing, isn&#039;t it: if the client&#039;s site really is deeply flawed from a usability or web-conventions standpoint, than seemingly small changes can have huge impact, but if the site is already at least par-for-the-course design and usability wise, the chances of that are much lower.

Alex,

No question - nothing is so helpful as a better reality when it comes to customer experience/satisfaction.  Luckily, many of the same techniques used to evaluate and plan customer experiences online can carry over offline as well (and vice versa).

- Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just the thing, isn&#8217;t it: if the client&#8217;s site really is deeply flawed from a usability or web-conventions standpoint, than seemingly small changes can have huge impact, but if the site is already at least par-for-the-course design and usability wise, the chances of that are much lower.</p>
<p>Alex,</p>
<p>No question &#8211; nothing is so helpful as a better reality when it comes to customer experience/satisfaction.  Luckily, many of the same techniques used to evaluate and plan customer experiences online can carry over offline as well (and vice versa).</p>
<p>- Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Fisken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Fisken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Jeff. Another important issue that always almost gets neglected are optimizations to business process and the end-to-end user experience. All of the optimization in the world may not matter if your customer support is lousy, have sub-par products &amp; services, etc. Most often this requires organizational changes and buy-in from stakeholders further up the chain from web teams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Jeff. Another important issue that always almost gets neglected are optimizations to business process and the end-to-end user experience. All of the optimization in the world may not matter if your customer support is lousy, have sub-par products &amp; services, etc. Most often this requires organizational changes and buy-in from stakeholders further up the chain from web teams.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/07/cmon-man-do-some-of-that-optimization-sht/comment-page-1/#comment-1177237</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had a client once who had his navigation bar on the right hand side of the page in the middle - donut!  Moved it to a traditional placement and his sales went up ten fold overnight, simple things usually but navigation is key in my view!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had a client once who had his navigation bar on the right hand side of the page in the middle &#8211; donut!  Moved it to a traditional placement and his sales went up ten fold overnight, simple things usually but navigation is key in my view!</p>
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		<title>By: Søren Sprogø</title>
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		<dc:creator>Søren Sprogø</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, it&#039;s funny when clients ask &quot;but can&#039;t we just make the Add-to-Cart button green instead of red, and expect an increase in conversion rate that&#039;ll give us thousands in added revenue?&quot;

When my answer is &quot;No, you site is sh*te. You should do a complete redesign, I don&#039;t do makeup on pigs&quot;. 
(Yes, I&#039;m sometimes honest like that).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, it&#8217;s funny when clients ask &#8220;but can&#8217;t we just make the Add-to-Cart button green instead of red, and expect an increase in conversion rate that&#8217;ll give us thousands in added revenue?&#8221;</p>
<p>When my answer is &#8220;No, you site is sh*te. You should do a complete redesign, I don&#8217;t do makeup on pigs&#8221;.<br />
(Yes, I&#8217;m sometimes honest like that).</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Alan Effinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Alan Effinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 05:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - oh, how true.
11th-hour implementations are, sadly, the norm with many clients. 

And expectations of radical improvements in traffic-usability-conversion without testing...

Then again, that&#039;s what makes this industry so engaging. Always something new to try, record, and duplicate.

Nice post. And a classic flick if you find an extra 90 minutes...

Best,
ME</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff &#8211; oh, how true.<br />
11th-hour implementations are, sadly, the norm with many clients. </p>
<p>And expectations of radical improvements in traffic-usability-conversion without testing&#8230;</p>
<p>Then again, that&#8217;s what makes this industry so engaging. Always something new to try, record, and duplicate.</p>
<p>Nice post. And a classic flick if you find an extra 90 minutes&#8230;</p>
<p>Best,<br />
ME</p>
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		<title>By: John : Site Doublers</title>
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		<dc:creator>John : Site Doublers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good tactic is to break down the huge projects into phases - with some split-testing built in.

Do the revamped product shots in just one category at a time and test for an uplift. 

If it looks good then this will help with morale and budget for the next categories. 

If it doesn&#039;t help at all then maybe forget this idea and try something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good tactic is to break down the huge projects into phases &#8211; with some split-testing built in.</p>
<p>Do the revamped product shots in just one category at a time and test for an uplift. </p>
<p>If it looks good then this will help with morale and budget for the next categories. </p>
<p>If it doesn&#8217;t help at all then maybe forget this idea and try something else.</p>
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