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		<title>By: Internet Marketing Expert</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/15/strong-copy-vs-cheeky-design/comment-page-1/#comment-1209018</link>
		<dc:creator>Internet Marketing Expert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those billboards got my attention, lol. It would be very interesting to know HOW effective those billboards really are. I still rather drink by coffee in SB than at McDonald’s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those billboards got my attention, lol. It would be very interesting to know HOW effective those billboards really are. I still rather drink by coffee in SB than at McDonald’s.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/15/strong-copy-vs-cheeky-design/comment-page-1/#comment-1201151</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is absolutely an insightfy article.
in my opinion,to catch the public´s attention is one of the most important things in advertising!
That is the key point</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is absolutely an insightfy article.<br />
in my opinion,to catch the public´s attention is one of the most important things in advertising!<br />
That is the key point</p>
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		<title>By: David Bruce Jr</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/15/strong-copy-vs-cheeky-design/comment-page-1/#comment-1183471</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bruce Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 05:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the &quot;24,000 people die from hunger...&quot; billboard pitching the Cedar Creek Church?

As you described these guys are not pitching the problem, they&#039;re pitching the solution and that&#039;s a fresh approach that I appreciate. 

Only challenge I have with it is it&#039;s sure enough an attention grabber but the call to action is so weak. 
Assuming the action intended is to donate, it&#039;s not clear who we&#039;re being asked to donate to?

Thanks for these posts and double thanks for submitting them to Stumbleupon, I&#039;d not have learned about your blog or agency if not for Stumbleupon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the &#8220;24,000 people die from hunger&#8230;&#8221; billboard pitching the Cedar Creek Church?</p>
<p>As you described these guys are not pitching the problem, they&#8217;re pitching the solution and that&#8217;s a fresh approach that I appreciate. </p>
<p>Only challenge I have with it is it&#8217;s sure enough an attention grabber but the call to action is so weak.<br />
Assuming the action intended is to donate, it&#8217;s not clear who we&#8217;re being asked to donate to?</p>
<p>Thanks for these posts and double thanks for submitting them to Stumbleupon, I&#8217;d not have learned about your blog or agency if not for Stumbleupon.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Salwolke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Salwolke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these are really clever. I&#039;ll have to check out the link. Thanks for bringing them to our attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these are really clever. I&#8217;ll have to check out the link. Thanks for bringing them to our attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Must-reads: July 26th, 2009 &#124; The TopCopy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Must-reads: July 26th, 2009 &#124; The TopCopy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Strong Copy Vs. Cheeky Design - A collection of billboard and other ads where strong copy is key, from futurenow&#8217;s marketing blog. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Strong Copy Vs. Cheeky Design &#8211; A collection of billboard and other ads where strong copy is key, from futurenow&#8217;s marketing blog. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tara Lynne Ferguson</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/15/strong-copy-vs-cheeky-design/comment-page-1/#comment-1179869</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara Lynne Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still laughing/gasping at these, it&#039;s clear most of these are NOT up in the US though, advertisers are constantly having to come up with more clever ways to grab the attention of passer bys, but how could these advertisers have gotten the same reaction here in the US I wonder? A little subtlety never hurt right? Great ads, when does part 2 come out??? Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still laughing/gasping at these, it&#8217;s clear most of these are NOT up in the US though, advertisers are constantly having to come up with more clever ways to grab the attention of passer bys, but how could these advertisers have gotten the same reaction here in the US I wonder? A little subtlety never hurt right? Great ads, when does part 2 come out??? Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/15/strong-copy-vs-cheeky-design/comment-page-1/#comment-1179635</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the hunger almost made it and then blew it by making the website impossible to read, particularly while driving by. Or maybe it was on a low level near a street where people mainly walk by? Couldn&#039;t tell by the pic. 

Lesson: make a great ad but be sure the desired response is in no way obscured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the hunger almost made it and then blew it by making the website impossible to read, particularly while driving by. Or maybe it was on a low level near a street where people mainly walk by? Couldn&#8217;t tell by the pic. </p>
<p>Lesson: make a great ad but be sure the desired response is in no way obscured.</p>
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		<title>By: Steen Enegaard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steen Enegaard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Persusive or not, if attention is the primary target, they succeeded.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennifer,

From their billboard, it looks like they did do something like that (look in the bottom left-hand corner).  Obviously, the site is no longer up and working, so I can only guess that the campaign ended and they took the site down (probably should have left it up, IMHO).  At any rate, you&#039;re right that having an online place to get more info would be essential for a billboard like this.

- Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer,</p>
<p>From their billboard, it looks like they did do something like that (look in the bottom left-hand corner).  Obviously, the site is no longer up and working, so I can only guess that the campaign ended and they took the site down (probably should have left it up, IMHO).  At any rate, you&#8217;re right that having an online place to get more info would be essential for a billboard like this.</p>
<p>- Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Saunders</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/15/strong-copy-vs-cheeky-design/comment-page-1/#comment-1179107</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved this post! I have to say that Cedar Creek Church missed a great opportunity: Why didn&#039;t they purchase www.satanhatescedarcreek.com and create a mini-site aimed at driving traffic to their er, church?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved this post! I have to say that Cedar Creek Church missed a great opportunity: Why didn&#8217;t they purchase <a href="http://www.satanhatescedarcreek.com">http://www.satanhatescedarcreek.com</a> and create a mini-site aimed at driving traffic to their er, church?</p>
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		<title>By: BradleyT</title>
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		<dc:creator>BradleyT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another Cedar Creek billboard  read, &quot;I was robbed at Cedar Creek Church&quot;.

I was suprised to find out Cedar Creek Church themselves were behind the billboards.

Story about those billboards here - 
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070405/NEWS10/704050349/-1/NEWS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Cedar Creek billboard  read, &#8220;I was robbed at Cedar Creek Church&#8221;.</p>
<p>I was suprised to find out Cedar Creek Church themselves were behind the billboards.</p>
<p>Story about those billboards here &#8211;<br />
<a href="http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070405/NEWS10/704050349/-1/NEWS">http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070405/NEWS10/704050349/-1/NEWS</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/15/strong-copy-vs-cheeky-design/comment-page-1/#comment-1179083</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry,

I rather doubt that one is allowed to use that word via FTC-regulated media.  Then again, I doubt that that&#039;s a U.S. billboard as the 24,000 features a dot rather than a comma, which is more of a euro thing, if I&#039;m not mistaken.

But would the message be diminished that much if it said &quot;Screw &#039;em&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry,</p>
<p>I rather doubt that one is allowed to use that word via FTC-regulated media.  Then again, I doubt that that&#8217;s a U.S. billboard as the 24,000 features a dot rather than a comma, which is more of a euro thing, if I&#8217;m not mistaken.</p>
<p>But would the message be diminished that much if it said &#8220;Screw &#8216;em&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Mills</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/15/strong-copy-vs-cheeky-design/comment-page-1/#comment-1179081</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you really allowed to use the word f**k on a billboard over there? Wow.</description>
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		<title>By: Maryland_Parker</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/15/strong-copy-vs-cheeky-design/comment-page-1/#comment-1179047</link>
		<dc:creator>Maryland_Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like your post! I think catching the public´s attention is one of the most important things in advertising, as it is the entertainment. It´s a way to keep people interested and can work very well with the word of mouth. If you are not noticeable, then you have less chances of doing it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like your post! I think catching the public´s attention is one of the most important things in advertising, as it is the entertainment. It´s a way to keep people interested and can work very well with the word of mouth. If you are not noticeable, then you have less chances of doing it right.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/15/strong-copy-vs-cheeky-design/comment-page-1/#comment-1179007</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flashy ads are overrated. If you put the right words in the right order in front of the right audience it sells every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flashy ads are overrated. If you put the right words in the right order in front of the right audience it sells every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan Regan</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/15/strong-copy-vs-cheeky-design/comment-page-1/#comment-1178700</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan Regan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the &quot;four bucks is dumb,&quot; rumor has it that McDonalds&#039;s media buyer threw that billboard up across the street from SBUX headquarters in Seattle.  That&#039;s bonus points :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the &#8220;four bucks is dumb,&#8221; rumor has it that McDonalds&#8217;s media buyer threw that billboard up across the street from SBUX headquarters in Seattle.  That&#8217;s bonus points <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ron Patiro</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/15/strong-copy-vs-cheeky-design/comment-page-1/#comment-1178673</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Patiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please turn this into a coffee table book.</description>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/15/strong-copy-vs-cheeky-design/comment-page-1/#comment-1178653</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilarious list!
Thanks for the inspiration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilarious list!<br />
Thanks for the inspiration.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt Haug</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/15/strong-copy-vs-cheeky-design/comment-page-1/#comment-1178581</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt Haug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knowing your background, didn&#039;t think I&#039;d get much disagreement...

And I KNOW I overstated my third point.  And definitely agree that the intelligent, RESULTS-driven synthesis of words and visuals is the best of all possible worlds as well as IMO being easier to test and tweak into an integrated campaign once you figure out what works best,

I really enjoy all of your posts though I seldom emerge from &quot;lurkdom&quot; to comment.  Keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knowing your background, didn&#8217;t think I&#8217;d get much disagreement&#8230;</p>
<p>And I KNOW I overstated my third point.  And definitely agree that the intelligent, RESULTS-driven synthesis of words and visuals is the best of all possible worlds as well as IMO being easier to test and tweak into an integrated campaign once you figure out what works best,</p>
<p>I really enjoy all of your posts though I seldom emerge from &#8220;lurkdom&#8221; to comment.  Keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great! Was there an underlying theme here? lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great! Was there an underlying theme here? lol</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Huntoon</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/15/strong-copy-vs-cheeky-design/comment-page-1/#comment-1178579</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Huntoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I hate McDonald&#039;s I have been impressed with a few of the pieces of their new coffee campaigns. I think some of it has been lame, but the one at the top of this post is quite stellar. Bold and direct...something that McDonald&#039;s can do without risking much at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I hate McDonald&#8217;s I have been impressed with a few of the pieces of their new coffee campaigns. I think some of it has been lame, but the one at the top of this post is quite stellar. Bold and direct&#8230;something that McDonald&#8217;s can do without risking much at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurt,

Sincerely, thank you so much for the thoughtful comment.  Of course, as a copywriter, I kind of felt like you were preaching to the choir, but you&#039;ll still get a hearty &quot;amen&quot; from me, brother ;)

I&#039;ll only say that there are quite a few people involved with Visual Rhetoric who would argue with your third point.  And I guess, I&#039;d be somewhere between the two poles.  Of course, most visuals are designed to work WITH copy, where each element contributes to a whole that&#039;s greater than the sum of it&#039;s parts.  Here&#039;s a perfect example of that:

http://tinyurl.com/lur2l4

- Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt,</p>
<p>Sincerely, thank you so much for the thoughtful comment.  Of course, as a copywriter, I kind of felt like you were preaching to the choir, but you&#8217;ll still get a hearty &#8220;amen&#8221; from me, brother <img src='http://www.grokdotcom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll only say that there are quite a few people involved with Visual Rhetoric who would argue with your third point.  And I guess, I&#8217;d be somewhere between the two poles.  Of course, most visuals are designed to work WITH copy, where each element contributes to a whole that&#8217;s greater than the sum of it&#8217;s parts.  Here&#8217;s a perfect example of that:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/lur2l4">http://tinyurl.com/lur2l4</a></p>
<p>- Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt Haug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt Haug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t doubt the &quot;visual scandal&quot; impact as a general rule, but from a practical standpoint, I always look to copy first for several reasons:

*  Faster, easier, cheaper to test. Re: Bryan&#039;s recent post on the &quot;follow me on twitter&quot; test.  How do you &quot;tweak&quot; (pun intended) the &quot;cheeky&quot; examples for the multitude of potential visual variables?  Size?  Complexion? Hairiness?  I&#039;ll leave it there...

*  Personally Inferential.  What is more effective-- the ad showing a starving child or the example you give where the &quot;mental&quot; picture is equally powerful, definitely more personal, and sets up the intellectual engagement rather than just a visceral response?

*   Interruption vs. Engagement.  a creative visual can certainly be a more dramatic &quot;interruption,&quot; but much less seldom leads to &quot;engagement,&quot; that in turn leads to action.  As a general rule, PICTURES are entertainment, WORDS are EDUCATION/INSTRUCTION.

*   Less &quot;self-congratulatory.&quot;  Don&#039;t get me wrong, I know plenty of copywriters who believe every one of their headlines is a mystical incantation, but the subjective &quot;artistic&quot; side of visual advertising is what leads to self-indugent Super Bowl ads and Clios that are amusing but not effective.

*  Targeted.  Demographic (let alone PERSONA) targeting is infinitely more &quot;squishy&quot; visually and by its nature more subjective. Visual cultural and demographic &quot;clues&quot; are much more likely to be misinterpreted or lead to inconclusive results.

As always, I apologize for the lengthy post, but I guess it&#039;s just evidence you&#039;re meeting what I suspect is one of your objectives-- creating deeper awareness and conversation about effective marketing techniques.

Now that I&#039;ve stirred the pot...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t doubt the &#8220;visual scandal&#8221; impact as a general rule, but from a practical standpoint, I always look to copy first for several reasons:</p>
<p>*  Faster, easier, cheaper to test. Re: Bryan&#8217;s recent post on the &#8220;follow me on twitter&#8221; test.  How do you &#8220;tweak&#8221; (pun intended) the &#8220;cheeky&#8221; examples for the multitude of potential visual variables?  Size?  Complexion? Hairiness?  I&#8217;ll leave it there&#8230;</p>
<p>*  Personally Inferential.  What is more effective&#8211; the ad showing a starving child or the example you give where the &#8220;mental&#8221; picture is equally powerful, definitely more personal, and sets up the intellectual engagement rather than just a visceral response?</p>
<p>*   Interruption vs. Engagement.  a creative visual can certainly be a more dramatic &#8220;interruption,&#8221; but much less seldom leads to &#8220;engagement,&#8221; that in turn leads to action.  As a general rule, PICTURES are entertainment, WORDS are EDUCATION/INSTRUCTION.</p>
<p>*   Less &#8220;self-congratulatory.&#8221;  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I know plenty of copywriters who believe every one of their headlines is a mystical incantation, but the subjective &#8220;artistic&#8221; side of visual advertising is what leads to self-indugent Super Bowl ads and Clios that are amusing but not effective.</p>
<p>*  Targeted.  Demographic (let alone PERSONA) targeting is infinitely more &#8220;squishy&#8221; visually and by its nature more subjective. Visual cultural and demographic &#8220;clues&#8221; are much more likely to be misinterpreted or lead to inconclusive results.</p>
<p>As always, I apologize for the lengthy post, but I guess it&#8217;s just evidence you&#8217;re meeting what I suspect is one of your objectives&#8211; creating deeper awareness and conversation about effective marketing techniques.</p>
<p>Now that I&#8217;ve stirred the pot&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
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		<description>Jaume,

No research done yet.  We are normally called in to optimize campaigns and ads that have already been developed, and that normally involves tweaking the landing page more than changing the ads.  Also, research tends to get done on things that are easily researched/quantified and Visual Scandal is hard to quantify, so there hasn&#039;t been any outside research done on this either.

- Jeff</description>
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<p>No research done yet.  We are normally called in to optimize campaigns and ads that have already been developed, and that normally involves tweaking the landing page more than changing the ads.  Also, research tends to get done on things that are easily researched/quantified and Visual Scandal is hard to quantify, so there hasn&#8217;t been any outside research done on this either.</p>
<p>- Jeff</p>
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