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		<title>By: Redrigo</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1214923</link>
		<dc:creator>Redrigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks For u unformations</description>
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		<title>By: Pennsylvania Driver Education</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1211926</link>
		<dc:creator>Pennsylvania Driver Education</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Information. That sounds great. Really helpful thanks for the Article, Great job, hope we can expect more articles like this. All the Best.<a href="http://www.ticketerasers.com">Traffic school Online</a> <a href="http://teen.idrivesafely.com/Pennsylvania">Pennsylvania Driver education</a> <a href="http://www.drivereducation-course.com/texas.html">Texas Driver education</a> <a href="http://www.drugandalcoholtest.us">Drug and alcohol Test</a> <a href="http://www.sanfrancisco-trafficschool.com">San Francisco Traffic School</a></p>
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		<title>By: Internet Marketing Expert</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1209193</link>
		<dc:creator>Internet Marketing Expert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Writing compelling content that is relevant to your reader and has a clear call to action is the way to go. If you can play with the right keywords that is great, but only if it does not change the effectiveness of the copy itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Writing compelling content that is relevant to your reader and has a clear call to action is the way to go. If you can play with the right keywords that is great, but only if it does not change the effectiveness of the copy itself.</p>
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		<title>By: best seo company</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1203926</link>
		<dc:creator>best seo company</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seo company should  create attractive and  constructive content for the viewer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seo company should  create attractive and  constructive content for the viewer.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1201140</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excelletn post
i can&#039;t agree you more
To get high ranking, SEO expert should use methods!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excelletn post<br />
i can&#8217;t agree you more<br />
To get high ranking, SEO expert should use methods!</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Consultant</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1189458</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO Consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides the questionable copy, the User Interface can be greatly improved as well. Even if the copy was made for the SERPs, when a human arrives at the site, the UI greatly reduces the conversion probability rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides the questionable copy, the User Interface can be greatly improved as well. Even if the copy was made for the SERPs, when a human arrives at the site, the UI greatly reduces the conversion probability rate.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1180566</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, wrote about in our blog at http://www.seo-e.com/.
Not only does copy like that turn people away, Google penalizes sites with it as well, treating it as spam. It&#039;s a double whammy to do keyword stuffing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, wrote about in our blog at <a href="http://www.seo-e.com/">http://www.seo-e.com/</a>.<br />
Not only does copy like that turn people away, Google penalizes sites with it as well, treating it as spam. It&#8217;s a double whammy to do keyword stuffing</p>
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		<title>By: Write to Your Audience, Not Exclusively to the Search Engines &#171; Search Engine Optimization Eblog</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1180565</link>
		<dc:creator>Write to Your Audience, Not Exclusively to the Search Engines &#171; Search Engine Optimization Eblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But too often, someone producing content for a website doesn’t consider this and only focuses on achieving high search engine rankings. Read the following statement from this FutureNow post: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But too often, someone producing content for a website doesn’t consider this and only focuses on achieving high search engine rankings. Read the following statement from this FutureNow post: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1180282</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. That is just terrible copywriting. The copy is filled with redundancies. They definitely should outsource SEO content creation to a reputable copywriting firm. The copy they currently have on their site will definitely increase their bounce rate and reduce their conversion rate. Not good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. That is just terrible copywriting. The copy is filled with redundancies. They definitely should outsource SEO content creation to a reputable copywriting firm. The copy they currently have on their site will definitely increase their bounce rate and reduce their conversion rate. Not good.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1180271</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if the copy were written well, it&#039;s a dreadful site ... it&#039;s almost illegible. 

It&#039;s a real turn off; white text on a black background says &quot;don&#039;t read me!&quot; 

I don&#039;t understand why this message hasn&#039;t gotten through to designers... except for all the world&#039;s largest ecommerce companies, who invariably use black text on a white background.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if the copy were written well, it&#8217;s a dreadful site &#8230; it&#8217;s almost illegible. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a real turn off; white text on a black background says &#8220;don&#8217;t read me!&#8221; </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why this message hasn&#8217;t gotten through to designers&#8230; except for all the world&#8217;s largest ecommerce companies, who invariably use black text on a white background.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant Crow</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1180263</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like the we -we tool or concept and was wondering whether you had researched any actual correlations between let&#039;s say low we - we scores and good conversions etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the we -we tool or concept and was wondering whether you had researched any actual correlations between let&#8217;s say low we &#8211; we scores and good conversions etc?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Grant Stowell - Frisco Chiropractic</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1180260</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Grant Stowell - Frisco Chiropractic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a welcome reminder of how &quot;me-centered&quot; we are as humans, it pervades everything we do.

I&#039;m glad to find out about the &quot;we-we&quot; tools o that I have a way of holding myself accountable for my own ego when writing online.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a welcome reminder of how &#8220;me-centered&#8221; we are as humans, it pervades everything we do.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad to find out about the &#8220;we-we&#8221; tools o that I have a way of holding myself accountable for my own ego when writing online.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Quinton Hoover</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1179959</link>
		<dc:creator>Quinton Hoover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 09:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In order to get high ranking SEO expert should use methods where low quality content should be pushed on to the internet.. Because the more the content, the better..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order to get high ranking SEO expert should use methods where low quality content should be pushed on to the internet.. Because the more the content, the better..</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Tips</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1179643</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO Tips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regan,i would like to point out that it is not even a good SEO technique.Search engines will treat it as spam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regan,i would like to point out that it is not even a good SEO technique.Search engines will treat it as spam.</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Copywriting</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1179417</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO Copywriting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian and Brendan, you are both right. SEO copywriting is all about balance. Yes, you can write for users and bots and do it well.  No, you can&#039;t shove excessive amounts of keyphrases into copy and expect good results with rankings OR with conversions. 

So often, website owners think that SEO copywriting is exclusively about drowning the copy in as many keywords as possible. It has never been about that. 

It&#039;s this type of copy that gives SEO copywriters a black eye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian and Brendan, you are both right. SEO copywriting is all about balance. Yes, you can write for users and bots and do it well.  No, you can&#8217;t shove excessive amounts of keyphrases into copy and expect good results with rankings OR with conversions. </p>
<p>So often, website owners think that SEO copywriting is exclusively about drowning the copy in as many keywords as possible. It has never been about that. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s this type of copy that gives SEO copywriters a black eye.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Stamoulis</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1179415</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Stamoulis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!

I just quoted your post and wrote about it in my blog at the following link:
http://www.searchengineoptimizationjournal.com/2009/07/22/content-seo/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!</p>
<p>I just quoted your post and wrote about it in my blog at the following link:<br />
<a href="http://www.searchengineoptimizationjournal.com/2009/07/22/content-seo/">http://www.searchengineoptimizationjournal.com/2009/07/22/content-seo/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Audio Bible</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1179402</link>
		<dc:creator>Audio Bible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is easy to talk about yourself, most people are self centered. It is a habit that websites need to break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is easy to talk about yourself, most people are self centered. It is a habit that websites need to break.</p>
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		<title>By: Hydraulik Poznan</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1179389</link>
		<dc:creator>Hydraulik Poznan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have right.

SEO companies often forget that the best way to promote site is to create interesting and valuable content on it for human users...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have right.</p>
<p>SEO companies often forget that the best way to promote site is to create interesting and valuable content on it for human users&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Is SEO All There Is?</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1179383</link>
		<dc:creator>Is SEO All There Is?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Regan at FutureNow made a repeatable observation. The we-we tool Brendan mentions is new to me, but I think it has some value. If anything, it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Regan at FutureNow made a repeatable observation. The we-we tool Brendan mentions is new to me, but I think it has some value. If anything, it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WEBOSIS SEO Consulting</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1179255</link>
		<dc:creator>WEBOSIS SEO Consulting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great example of optimizing for the search engines at the expense of the user.  Even worse, is that the poor copy itself will have minimal weight in terms of SEO.  1 or 2 quality backlinks would do much better than the poor copy itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great example of optimizing for the search engines at the expense of the user.  Even worse, is that the poor copy itself will have minimal weight in terms of SEO.  1 or 2 quality backlinks would do much better than the poor copy itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan Regan</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1179252</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan Regan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ian: this post does not intentionally imply that SEO copywriting and sales copywriting are mutually exclusive.  I agree they can coexist if the copywriter has the chops.

However, I challenge any copywriter to write great sales copy AND use all the keywords that were stuffed into that paragraph (about 23 by my count).  It&#039;s neither possible nor wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ian: this post does not intentionally imply that SEO copywriting and sales copywriting are mutually exclusive.  I agree they can coexist if the copywriter has the chops.</p>
<p>However, I challenge any copywriter to write great sales copy AND use all the keywords that were stuffed into that paragraph (about 23 by my count).  It&#8217;s neither possible nor wise.</p>
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		<title>By: ian</title>
		<link>http://www.grokdotcom.com/2009/07/21/when-we-we-and-seo-copy-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1179248</link>
		<dc:creator>ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gotta take issue here. This isn&#039;t about focusing on SEO copy. This is about writing godawful copy.

A skilled copywriter can write great stuff for both SEO and sales. 

Implying that they&#039;re mutually exclusive gives all the sub-talented morons out there who crank out horrible writing a pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta take issue here. This isn&#8217;t about focusing on SEO copy. This is about writing godawful copy.</p>
<p>A skilled copywriter can write great stuff for both SEO and sales. </p>
<p>Implying that they&#8217;re mutually exclusive gives all the sub-talented morons out there who crank out horrible writing a pass.</p>
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